1 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:07,090 [Music] 2 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:24,930 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:28,550 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:34,290 here's gene Steinberg with gene and 5 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:36,690 Chris we're back up the Power casts as 6 00:00:41,299 --> 00:00:39,030 we ponder the future in the past the 7 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:41,309 paranormal field and also the listener 8 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:42,750 reaction to last week's episode 9 00:00:48,009 --> 00:00:45,180 featuring grant Cameron and he was 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:48,019 talking of course about disinformation 11 00:00:53,149 --> 00:00:50,970 secret documents not so secret documents 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:53,159 crash retrievals and so on and so forth 13 00:00:58,130 --> 00:00:55,530 now Chris just to get started with this 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:00:58,140 as you know during the discussion I kept 15 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:01,290 asking about crash retrievals but there 16 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:03,239 wasn't a lot to say beyond of course 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:06,270 Roswell you know I wonder why he would 18 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:08,610 even have that in the title if he wasn't 19 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:10,590 ready to feel questions about it I know 20 00:01:15,140 --> 00:01:12,479 I just kept asking him and asking him 21 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:15,150 and he sort of skirted around this topic 22 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:17,220 and finally I said well obviously it's 23 00:01:21,459 --> 00:01:19,020 Roswell or nothing and then when you 24 00:01:24,770 --> 00:01:21,469 brought up the speculation about 25 00:01:26,539 --> 00:01:24,780 possibly the Roswell craft being a test 26 00:01:29,029 --> 00:01:26,549 aircraft no there's no evidence to test 27 00:01:30,499 --> 00:01:29,039 aircraft not to be familiar with Joseph 28 00:01:32,899 --> 00:01:30,509 Farrell's work I mean the guy's written 29 00:01:34,819 --> 00:01:32,909 four books on the subject and it's 30 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:34,829 cutting-edge stuff the guys in the you 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:38,070 know in Oxford research expert it just 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:40,170 didn't I couldn't believe it I need to 33 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:43,530 go ahead and send him a list of books to 34 00:01:48,169 --> 00:01:45,420 to read to get himself up to speed on 35 00:01:50,109 --> 00:01:48,179 the in my estimation a very strong 36 00:01:52,819 --> 00:01:50,119 likelihood that Roswell will somehow 37 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:52,829 very trust real nature and then somehow 38 00:01:58,639 --> 00:01:56,729 had to do with with technology based on 39 00:02:01,279 --> 00:01:58,649 you know some of the work that the 40 00:02:03,529 --> 00:02:01,289 Germans did in the 30s and 40s and why 41 00:02:05,690 --> 00:02:03,539 assume there weren't test aircraft of 42 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:05,700 that kind that doesn't make sense either 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:08,670 there had to be you know we recovered 44 00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:11,490 prototypes and scientific research 45 00:02:16,910 --> 00:02:14,220 documents we took on board a lot of 46 00:02:18,670 --> 00:02:16,920 those famous scientists who work for the 47 00:02:22,730 --> 00:02:18,680 German government during World War two 48 00:02:25,729 --> 00:02:22,740 we took on the entire German Soviet 49 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:25,739 intelligence force in Eastern Europe 50 00:02:30,570 --> 00:02:28,080 Reinhard Galen basically was 51 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:30,580 appropriated by the Americans and is 52 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:32,590 entire intelligence-gathering apparatus 53 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:35,740 just became ours doesn't make sense and 54 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:38,590 also well we can understand here the 55 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:41,020 scenario that's why for example there 56 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:44,020 was this report Oh a flying saucer was 57 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:45,640 recovered at Roswell and then they 58 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:47,140 changed it they said it was a balloon 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:49,540 and possibly someone from military 60 00:02:55,050 --> 00:02:51,370 intelligence calls him on the phone says 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:55,060 hey guys it's not a flying saucer it's 62 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:56,530 just one of our test aircraft 63 00:03:00,930 --> 00:02:59,440 you know don't telling you buy a bow it 64 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:00,940 just say it's a balloon or something 65 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:03,700 that's a very simple explanation Mikey 66 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:06,070 what happened of course the criticism 67 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:07,960 here is he says well what about the 68 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:10,150 bodies you know the little people but 69 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:12,310 you know what there's only five people 70 00:03:16,230 --> 00:03:14,260 out of the 300 witnesses that ever 71 00:03:18,449 --> 00:03:16,240 actually claimed to have seen them and 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:18,459 each one of them slowly over the years 73 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:21,330 has been shot down I mean Glen Dennis 74 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:23,350 there's some question about his 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:27,550 assertions the the mysterious nurse has 76 00:03:31,050 --> 00:03:28,810 never been found 77 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:31,060 there's just so much about Roswell that 78 00:03:36,210 --> 00:03:33,430 doesn't add up and it's just become the 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:36,220 thing of myth and legend basically and 80 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:38,890 even if pilots are found they could have 81 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:41,380 been perfectly human pilots who died 82 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:44,590 during the crash and then the legend and 83 00:03:49,410 --> 00:03:46,660 the memories changed normal-looking 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:49,420 people wearing possibly some kind of 85 00:03:55,979 --> 00:03:52,450 flight suit to become grey aliens or 86 00:03:58,590 --> 00:03:55,989 something or any Jacobson's assertion 87 00:04:01,500 --> 00:03:58,600 that it could have been the Joseph 88 00:04:05,490 --> 00:04:01,510 Mengele back-engineering children and 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:05,500 having genetic mutants that are flying 90 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:08,050 around it just gets crazier and crazier 91 00:04:13,949 --> 00:04:11,260 gene okay they had jockeys tend to be 92 00:04:17,130 --> 00:04:13,959 small slim white good name for a band 93 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:17,140 gene the saucer jockeys it probably is a 94 00:04:20,190 --> 00:04:19,120 band by the name of saucer jockeys we're 95 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:20,200 not looking hard enough 96 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:21,940 the other thing it bothers me about this 97 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:24,820 this all this speculation about this 98 00:04:30,090 --> 00:04:27,910 information so as grant Cameron puts it 99 00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:30,100 a whole bunch of informations being put 100 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:32,260 out there some of which is fact some of 101 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:35,050 which is fiction you figure it out why 102 00:04:40,650 --> 00:04:37,720 bother releasing anything what's the 103 00:04:43,230 --> 00:04:40,660 point of it all you know true why play 104 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:43,240 the game unless it's rogue agents and we 105 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:45,330 can think of a few 106 00:04:50,820 --> 00:04:49,210 but Mike can you spell Richard Doty yeah 107 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,830 what's the motivation is what you're 108 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:52,720 saying what is the motivation to release 109 00:04:58,830 --> 00:04:55,170 a bunch of information that's ridiculous 110 00:05:00,510 --> 00:04:58,840 because even if you do only a few people 111 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:00,520 will ever get the real information from 112 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:03,370 the fake why even publicize it keep a 113 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:04,090 secret 114 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:06,370 well it may be it may be some sort of 115 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:08,770 strange sort of back-engineered 116 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:14,500 preemptive cultural program of a gradual 117 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:17,560 disclosure perhaps that it's it's being 118 00:05:22,110 --> 00:05:19,360 used as a red herring to keep people off 119 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:22,120 off you know what could possibly be real 120 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:23,970 stories that need to be followed up on 121 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:28,740 yeah but all it does though is denials 122 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:31,420 without evidence or the hint of evidence 123 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:33,850 would eventually cause people to shut 124 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:36,610 down but if you keep feeding evidence 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:38,410 all you do is make people continue to 126 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:41,530 talk about it what is the value where's 127 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:44,470 the logic in that you know boy when you 128 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:47,910 try to second-guess the that wonderful 129 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:50,650 oxymoron the military intelligence it's 130 00:05:56,430 --> 00:05:53,950 it's virtually impossible well there is 131 00:05:58,380 --> 00:05:56,440 that of course the fact that we don't 132 00:06:02,640 --> 00:05:58,390 know what military intelligence is doing 133 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:02,650 we don't know what particular agents 134 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:06,160 might want to do might decide to do we 135 00:06:10,830 --> 00:06:08,260 can possibly suggest there may be some 136 00:06:12,930 --> 00:06:10,840 kind of test program to see how people 137 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:12,940 might react to the truth if there is a 138 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:16,240 truth what about UFOs to be revealed you 139 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:17,830 want to test public reaction and maybe 140 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:19,900 that's done with the UFO field you 141 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:21,940 already have people involved in 142 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:25,210 investigating these things why not have 143 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:27,940 them be useful become unwitting pawns 144 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:30,010 it's kind of like for example when you 145 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,370 buy a new tech gadget or a new operating 146 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:35,440 system from Microsoft and Apple you are 147 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:38,470 the free beta tester you report your 148 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:40,690 experiences and they make it better so 149 00:06:46,290 --> 00:06:43,810 the government in turn is using us to be 150 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:46,300 the beta testers of techniques at 151 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:48,460 disclosure let's see how people react to 152 00:06:52,770 --> 00:06:51,070 that let's see what they say and then 153 00:06:55,470 --> 00:06:52,780 we'll come up with a conclusion how to 154 00:06:57,679 --> 00:06:55,480 handle it I mean now we see of course 155 00:07:00,019 --> 00:06:57,689 evidence of life on Mars 156 00:07:03,019 --> 00:07:00,029 evidence of water and how long does it 157 00:07:05,779 --> 00:07:03,029 take to say all right if there's water 158 00:07:09,139 --> 00:07:05,789 on Mars there has to be microbial life 159 00:07:11,989 --> 00:07:09,149 it goes without saying but they're not 160 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:11,999 going that far but there has to be and 161 00:07:16,669 --> 00:07:13,409 then think of it this way 162 00:07:19,999 --> 00:07:16,679 if the conditions of Mars became bad 163 00:07:23,209 --> 00:07:20,009 over millennium wouldn't the people on 164 00:07:25,159 --> 00:07:23,219 Mars if there were people just go inside 165 00:07:27,559 --> 00:07:25,169 the planet and cabins on the ground and 166 00:07:30,919 --> 00:07:27,569 wouldn't wouldn't the other potential 167 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:30,929 life-forms adapt and some might just 168 00:07:37,489 --> 00:07:35,849 leave the planet and go to earth so 169 00:07:40,819 --> 00:07:37,499 ladies and gentlemen we're Martians I 170 00:07:42,889 --> 00:07:40,829 don't want to I was telling people that 171 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:42,899 for years they always accuse me of 172 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,849 believing in aliens I said wait a minute 173 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:46,800 how do you know we're not the aliens and 174 00:07:51,139 --> 00:07:48,089 they're more terrestrial than we are 175 00:07:53,269 --> 00:07:51,149 I've been saying that for years well of 176 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:53,279 course the legend of the abandoned eros 177 00:07:58,909 --> 00:07:55,769 which is the Richard Schafer's story 178 00:08:02,359 --> 00:07:58,919 where in his case though conditions on 179 00:08:06,409 --> 00:08:02,369 earth became bad and therefore two races 180 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:06,419 on earth migrated to the caverns but 181 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:07,789 maybe that happened on Mars 182 00:08:12,829 --> 00:08:10,889 maybe that legend of shaver happened on 183 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:12,839 Mars where the atmospheric conditions 184 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:14,879 were getting worse and worse unable to 185 00:08:21,979 --> 00:08:18,329 sustain life some migrated to caverns 186 00:08:23,979 --> 00:08:21,989 maybe used some kind of artificial 187 00:08:26,569 --> 00:08:23,989 life-sustaining system like in the movie 188 00:08:29,119 --> 00:08:26,579 Total Recall the short sniper version 189 00:08:32,569 --> 00:08:29,129 remember Mars had this artificial 190 00:08:34,429 --> 00:08:32,579 atmosphere every year yeah sure that's 191 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:34,439 how it be done and then after a while 192 00:08:38,990 --> 00:08:36,990 maybe they decided let's go look for a 193 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:39,000 new home that already has a native 194 00:08:42,829 --> 00:08:40,769 atmosphere why have to mess with all 195 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:42,839 these machines they break down what 196 00:08:47,749 --> 00:08:45,360 happens people or whatever they are get 197 00:08:49,939 --> 00:08:47,759 killed let's go to earth and that's how 198 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:49,949 we started oh well there's always 199 00:08:55,009 --> 00:08:52,470 Battlestar Galactica where 150,000 years 200 00:08:58,970 --> 00:08:55,019 ago in the TV series the second TV 201 00:08:59,210 --> 00:08:58,980 series the migrants came to earth forget 202 00:09:01,460 --> 00:08:59,220 it 203 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:01,470 today we have a fascinating guest he's 204 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:03,930 been on the show before dr. Roger Leir 205 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:06,800 he was on the power cast in 2006 and 206 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:11,190 2007 and he's a guy who has a site call 207 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:15,570 old alien scalpel dot-com and the reason 208 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:17,010 for the title of course is that he has 209 00:09:21,980 --> 00:09:19,800 supposedly removed alien implants or 210 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:21,990 mysterious implants from people who may 211 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,330 have been UFO abductees he's a 212 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:26,480 fascinating guy he investigated the 213 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:29,670 Virginia sightings in Brazil which is 214 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:31,860 supposed to be Brazil's Roswell he's 215 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:33,210 been involved in the field for many 216 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:35,730 years has a lot of information to offer 217 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:37,590 if you want to get in touch with us 218 00:09:44,180 --> 00:09:40,290 contact us on Twitter where we're known 219 00:09:46,910 --> 00:09:44,190 as the para cast on Twitter and we have 220 00:09:49,610 --> 00:09:46,920 loads and loads as I say loads yeah you 221 00:09:52,130 --> 00:09:49,620 did loads of questions in our forums for 222 00:09:59,780 --> 00:09:52,140 dr. 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00:14:22,210 para cast comm we're joined by dr. Roger 324 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:22,870 Leir 325 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:25,150 who has been exploring the UFO enigma 326 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:27,190 for a number of years he also has that 327 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:28,830 site I mentioned in our previous segment 328 00:14:33,450 --> 00:14:31,930 aliens scalpel calm and we have a link 329 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:33,460 to it so you can see the kind of 330 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:36,670 research he does and we're gonna cover a 331 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:38,410 few subjects we have a lot of questions 332 00:14:42,450 --> 00:14:40,420 from our listeners there's no way that 333 00:14:43,410 --> 00:14:42,460 we'll get to every topic as a result of 334 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:43,420 which we'll probably have them come back 335 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:45,670 in the near future to kind of finish it 336 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:47,770 but I think before we do anything else 337 00:14:54,090 --> 00:14:51,910 let's maybe do a quick overview of the 338 00:14:55,710 --> 00:14:54,100 kind of research you've done and then 339 00:14:57,570 --> 00:14:55,720 we'll focus on a few more specific 340 00:14:59,250 --> 00:14:57,580 things now obviously when you first 341 00:15:03,500 --> 00:14:59,260 appeared on the power cast the big 342 00:15:05,550 --> 00:15:03,510 question then was about your recovery of 343 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:05,560 implants from people who said they were 344 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:07,750 abducted with the possibility that these 345 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,850 may prove some kind of alien 346 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:11,920 intervention-- how did you get involved 347 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:15,520 in looking into alien implants geez that 348 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:19,390 was a historical event we're getting 349 00:15:24,580 --> 00:15:22,390 involved in this and if someone that 350 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:24,590 told me that I would be doing this 351 00:15:29,170 --> 00:15:26,690 you know fifty years ago I would have 352 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:29,180 said they're absolutely insane at the 353 00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:32,000 time when I became involved I was 354 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:34,190 involved pretty heavily with a local 355 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:37,280 MUFON group and the Ventura County 356 00:15:43,270 --> 00:15:40,760 California and I was serving in the 357 00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:43,280 capacity of an investigative reporter 358 00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:46,340 for a periodical a monthly periodical 359 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:49,390 that we produced called the vortex and 360 00:15:57,900 --> 00:15:53,990 in doing so I one of my duties was to 361 00:16:01,050 --> 00:15:57,910 attend various UFO conferences and 362 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:01,060 listen to all the speakers and then 363 00:16:10,630 --> 00:16:05,750 critique them in articles and a vortex 364 00:16:15,190 --> 00:16:10,640 and because I am Who I am and what I was 365 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:15,200 what I was I pretty much gave my opinion 366 00:16:21,250 --> 00:16:18,250 and with little care whether people 367 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:21,260 enjoyed it or liked it or greed with me 368 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:24,530 or not so well I thought somebody was a 369 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:25,730 liar 370 00:16:32,170 --> 00:16:29,510 I said so and if I thought they were 371 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:32,180 credible I gave them credit for it so 372 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:34,130 therefore a few people maybe didn't like 373 00:16:40,330 --> 00:16:36,920 what you did yes there was probably more 374 00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:40,340 than a few I just took you know 375 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:44,030 editorial license - and of course they 376 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:46,730 you know the editor of the periodical 377 00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:50,900 you know allowed me to do this and we 378 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:53,480 actually sold more periodicals to 379 00:16:59,260 --> 00:16:55,930 anonymous on members than we did to 380 00:17:03,160 --> 00:16:59,270 members actually as that became such a 381 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:03,170 popular piece of work and not just me 382 00:17:09,870 --> 00:17:05,570 but we had some very other clever things 383 00:17:13,060 --> 00:17:09,880 going on - such as cartoons and other 384 00:17:15,250 --> 00:17:13,070 original articles but but anyway to keep 385 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:15,260 the story short and one of these 386 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:17,810 conferences that was shown x-rays and 387 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:22,160 what an individual touted was alien 388 00:17:27,790 --> 00:17:25,130 implants they were x-rays of a foot with 389 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:27,800 two apparent metallic objects in the big 390 00:17:34,210 --> 00:17:31,250 toe and I turned around and laughed and 391 00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:34,220 walked away because to me this was as 392 00:17:40,910 --> 00:17:37,920 far as anyone could stretch the rubber 393 00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:40,920 so you know let's let's qualify that 394 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:43,980 your podiatrist so you're you're the 395 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:46,590 right person to ask about you know 396 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:48,150 alleged evidence like this could you 397 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:49,860 give us a time frame well what time 398 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:51,030 period are we talking about here 399 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:54,650 Oh in the early 1990s okay see oh yes 400 00:17:59,360 --> 00:17:56,190 that's correct 401 00:18:01,910 --> 00:17:59,370 I probably more qualified than anybody 402 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:01,920 else because at that point I had removed 403 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:04,230 numerous objects from the foot people 404 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:07,350 step on all sorts of things and in 405 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:09,990 addition to that we do a lot of surgery 406 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:14,370 and to repair fractures and change the 407 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:16,800 architecture of the foot and so on and 408 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:20,070 in doing so we use metal we screws 409 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:23,430 plates pins just like the orthopedist 410 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:26,730 does for your hip and so on but you know 411 00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:28,650 these look like was prom possible 412 00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:31,620 leftovers from a prior foot surgery so 413 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:35,100 as I said I laughed and walk away now it 414 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:37,290 was one thing to consider the 415 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:39,810 possibility that there were non 416 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:42,990 terrestrial craft that was flying 417 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:46,470 through our skies because after all been 418 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:49,440 researching this for a number of years 419 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:52,380 and I'm old enough to remember my father 420 00:18:58,430 --> 00:18:55,490 bringing in the San Francisco Examiner 421 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:58,440 into our home laying it on the table and 422 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:01,020 reading the headline to my mother that 423 00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:04,680 said US Army Air Force captures flying 424 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:07,800 saucer and he went on to a long 425 00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:10,350 dissertation about we weren't the only 426 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:13,080 living beings in the universe and so on 427 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:14,820 so of course you're talking about 428 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:17,370 Roswell there aren't you yes this was 429 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:19,760 the Roswell event and the headline was 430 00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:23,730 pressed in my mind as was the scene in 431 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:25,950 the kitchen and my father's explanation 432 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:29,330 now my father was an unusual man who 433 00:19:36,650 --> 00:19:33,120 growing up as a child and in later years 434 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:36,660 always seemed to know things that other 435 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:38,790 members of the family or friends didn't 436 00:19:45,530 --> 00:19:40,530 know I don't know what his source of 437 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:45,540 knowledge was he was a 32nd degree Mason 438 00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:48,150 33 degree Shriner 439 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:51,750 maybe he had friends that were in places 440 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:54,960 that other people weren't I don't know 441 00:20:00,890 --> 00:19:57,770 but he was sort of a mysterious fellow 442 00:20:05,899 --> 00:20:00,900 and incessant arguments with my uncle 443 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:05,909 are you so up to sit there and enjoy but 444 00:20:11,390 --> 00:20:08,640 anyway I'm not the stray too far from 445 00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:11,400 that so yes I you know conceived 446 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:13,620 possible now you got to remember that 447 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:16,880 there's a history to the development of 448 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:20,100 where we got where we were where we are 449 00:20:26,419 --> 00:20:23,399 now as far as the subject of ufology is 450 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:26,429 concerned in the early 90s although 451 00:20:32,539 --> 00:20:29,190 there were some few abduction cases 452 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:32,549 major abduction cases on record Betty 453 00:20:38,659 --> 00:20:37,110 and Barney Hill Whitley Strieber you 454 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,669 know and then the seventies there was 455 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:42,000 Travis Walton and so on a Pascagoula 456 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:44,370 incident there was you know some people 457 00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:47,610 were starting to write but Hopkins David 458 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:52,620 Jacobs John Mack etc but by and large 459 00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:55,470 you feel them you follow G such as MUFON 460 00:21:01,370 --> 00:20:58,620 or any of the other organizations that 461 00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:01,380 were in existence at the time really 462 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:05,039 didn't accept alien abduction as a 463 00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:05,850 reality 464 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:08,460 so here's about the time you know where 465 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:12,690 I come along and my cousin dr. Kenneth 466 00:21:19,389 --> 00:21:15,870 ring writes a book called the Omega 467 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:19,399 project and his was a study he was a 468 00:21:24,740 --> 00:21:22,320 tenured psychologist PhD at the 469 00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:24,750 University Connecticut and so he writes 470 00:21:29,630 --> 00:21:26,760 a book looking for a common psychic 471 00:21:32,350 --> 00:21:29,640 psychological profile for those that had 472 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:32,360 UFO experiences and those that had 473 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:36,090 near-death experiences and his field of 474 00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:39,210 expertise which was near death now of 475 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:41,460 course this was also being funded by the 476 00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:44,990 University Connecticut so he spared no 477 00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:48,539 no time or money and researching for 478 00:21:55,639 --> 00:21:51,390 this book so all this sort of happened 479 00:21:59,149 --> 00:21:55,649 at the same time but as I said abduction 480 00:22:00,910 --> 00:21:59,159 was not really accepted at all so if you 481 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:00,920 can't if you don't accept 482 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:04,550 abduction as the reality then how in a 483 00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:06,290 world could you ever accept the fact 484 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:09,080 that someone might have an alien implant 485 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:13,190 so I really said I did walk away I turn 486 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:15,590 around walked away but the section 487 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:17,930 director for our group coerced me into 488 00:22:22,270 --> 00:22:19,910 coming back and listened to what he had 489 00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:22,280 to say and he showed me these x-rays 490 00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:24,860 again and I said well to me they look 491 00:22:28,540 --> 00:22:26,840 like leftovers from a surgery when did 492 00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:28,550 she have her foot surgery and they said 493 00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,440 as far as I know she never had a foot 494 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:32,960 surgery and I said well can you prove it 495 00:22:37,210 --> 00:22:35,390 and before we find out what to prove and 496 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:37,220 what this is all about we got dr. 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Roger Leir 600 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,680 talking about his early involvement in 601 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:19,840 so-called alien implants with Gene and 602 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:22,330 Chris and the power cast dr. Leo you 603 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:24,940 were talking about this particular 604 00:27:30,090 --> 00:27:27,610 discussion where you wondered if this 605 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,100 just wasn't an artifact of what bad 606 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:32,320 surgery well it could have been bad 607 00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:35,230 surgery or can sometimes there are 608 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:37,180 little pieces of metal that are left 609 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:40,390 over that the surgery crew doesn't see 610 00:27:45,690 --> 00:27:44,230 and they're fairly inert so as long as 611 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:45,700 they don't leave a scalpel in your 612 00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:50,260 stomach or some sponges or a towel I had 613 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:53,160 a case that came in on foot case that 614 00:27:58,050 --> 00:27:55,900 underwent a massive abdominal surgery 615 00:27:59,600 --> 00:27:58,060 and had a lot of medical problems for 616 00:28:02,040 --> 00:27:59,610 years and they finally opened him up 617 00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:02,050 hard to believe but they had left a 618 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:05,380 surgical towel inside the abdomen whew 619 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:07,690 I hate to see the lawsuit for that one 620 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:10,810 you know the guy didn't sue anybody he 621 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:12,700 was just so happy to get it out and feel 622 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:16,000 good that and just had the attitude well 623 00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:18,370 you know anything can happen so or no 624 00:28:22,290 --> 00:28:20,440 retribution at all but he wouldn't have 625 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:22,300 had one heck of a case 626 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:25,630 oh my penny would anyway to carry on 627 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:27,490 from there yes there's a little bits and 628 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:30,090 things sometimes might be left over so 629 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:33,280 usually unintentionally yeah so with 630 00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:35,080 that as I said I asked him the question 631 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:38,680 can you prove it so well that he reached 632 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:42,870 into a bag much like an aviators bag 633 00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:46,000 pilot for a commercial airline you know 634 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:47,980 one of those long square things with the 635 00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:50,710 handle on the top pulled out a giant 636 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,230 stack of medical records hand him to me 637 00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:56,080 and said would you like to go through 638 00:29:02,340 --> 00:28:59,770 these then I stood there stunned and 639 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:02,350 said well if you let me take him to my 640 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:04,540 room because we were staying the same 641 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:06,360 hotel and 642 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,490 if I could take out of my room and take 643 00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,980 time to go through them why I will do 644 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,039 that so that seemed to please everybody 645 00:29:17,539 --> 00:29:15,600 so I did and I went through all the 646 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:17,549 records then this has gone back to 647 00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:20,490 almost the time that the child was born 648 00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:23,159 a very complete set of records and there 649 00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:25,590 was no evidence where she ever had a 650 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:27,620 foot surgery so I went back the next day 651 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:30,720 and I said well if do you think these 652 00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,460 are so usual why don't you just take him 653 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:34,679 out see what they are and he said well 654 00:29:38,659 --> 00:29:36,690 she probably would like to have that 655 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,669 done but she doesn't have a medical 656 00:29:42,919 --> 00:29:40,799 insurance and doesn't have any money 657 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:42,929 so I said where does she live and he 658 00:29:46,909 --> 00:29:44,850 said well in Texas and I said well I'll 659 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:46,919 tell you what you get it to California 660 00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:49,590 and I'll do surgery at no charge now I 661 00:29:54,850 --> 00:29:52,620 said this because I thought about it and 662 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:54,860 I said you know I don't have too much 663 00:30:00,620 --> 00:29:59,010 recreation time so here we can do we can 664 00:30:03,379 --> 00:30:00,630 remove something that doesn't belong 665 00:30:05,389 --> 00:30:03,389 there and I'll have a little fun in the 666 00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:05,399 meantime proving if this was under 667 00:30:11,259 --> 00:30:08,220 nonsense so a couple of weeks went by 668 00:30:15,169 --> 00:30:11,269 and I got a call from the individual who 669 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:15,179 and another case with a metallic object 670 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:18,090 in the back of a hand sent me the x-rays 671 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:21,929 and we took them to a radiologist and he 672 00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:24,450 verified the fact that these this also 673 00:30:28,909 --> 00:30:27,179 was a metallic object so he asked me if 674 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:28,919 I could do this surgery and I said well 675 00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,809 I don't do hand surgery but I could have 676 00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:32,460 a friend of mine who's a general surgeon 677 00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:35,580 do it so we did the two surgeries 678 00:30:41,779 --> 00:30:38,639 back-to-back and again to prove that 679 00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:41,789 this was other nonsense than to have a 680 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:45,179 little recreative laugh so those were 681 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:47,789 the first cases that were done and there 682 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,460 was some unusual happenings that 683 00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:52,799 happened right from the beginning 684 00:30:59,299 --> 00:30:57,630 so maybe the surprise was on us I guess 685 00:31:02,240 --> 00:30:59,309 the question is here in all this 686 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:02,250 research of possible implants was any 687 00:31:06,529 --> 00:31:04,590 evidence uncovered that proved something 688 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:06,539 more than just some kind of piece of 689 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:07,169 metal 690 00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:10,529 well zipper had many years we've not 691 00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:13,860 done 16 cases and produced 17 objects 692 00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:17,040 and to bring the 693 00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:20,700 the show to an utter halt and ends we 694 00:31:28,790 --> 00:31:25,340 have now a 501 C 3 non-profit scientific 695 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:28,800 organization called ans research we have 696 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:32,250 an entire science board we have one of 697 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:34,230 the world's most famous nuclear 698 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:37,530 physicists on board as on the science 699 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:40,190 board dr. Robert Koontz we have a 700 00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:44,210 laboratory where we're doing in-house 701 00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:47,070 science and looking for nanotechnology 702 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:50,040 of which at the time I started this 703 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:52,710 wasn't in existence and science were 704 00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:54,810 saying that nanotechnology couldn't 705 00:32:00,860 --> 00:31:56,580 happen it couldn't make a carbon 706 00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:00,870 nanotube etc and now we find that then 707 00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:03,780 looking these objects we have carbon 708 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:06,360 nanotubes we have what are called non 709 00:32:15,290 --> 00:32:10,890 terrestrial isotopic ratios that simply 710 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:15,300 means we all know what u-235 is right 711 00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:17,730 explain to our listeners who haven't 712 00:32:24,980 --> 00:32:20,820 kept up on the science okay well u-235 713 00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:24,990 is uranium-235 and we like to pick bobs 714 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:27,960 out of it okay so we're getting all this 715 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:29,550 stuff that appears to be cutting edge 716 00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:31,860 that's saying that the substances in 717 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:34,260 these implants indicate some advanced 718 00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:38,310 technology indicates specifically 719 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:42,630 advanced nanotechnological science which 720 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:46,200 is far beyond that for which we know 721 00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:50,490 even the subject of the black-budget 722 00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:52,830 is responsible for I've been dealing 723 00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:55,590 with some firms that do do black-budget 724 00:33:02,480 --> 00:32:58,740 projects they're looking at these 725 00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:02,490 materials and believe me these firms one 726 00:33:06,620 --> 00:33:04,740 of them told me very recently don't 727 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:06,630 bring us a project that's ten years in 728 00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:07,260 the future 729 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:09,150 don't bring a surprise that's a hundred 730 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:10,320 years in the future 731 00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:12,660 bring us a project that's at least a 732 00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:14,460 thousand years in the future and we'll 733 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:16,680 look at your data so they're interested 734 00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:19,230 in the data that we have produced now 735 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:22,440 the dr. Robert Koontz has gone one step 736 00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:25,470 further based on the Big Bang Theory and 737 00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:28,710 some mathematics that even I don't 738 00:33:31,670 --> 00:33:29,430 underst 739 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:31,680 and it's advanced mathematics he's able 740 00:33:37,910 --> 00:33:34,980 to determine where in the universe that 741 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:37,920 these the the materials for these 742 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:41,130 objects come from and the age of the 743 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:45,900 society or advanced beings where they 744 00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:49,230 come from and how old they are so ok so 745 00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:51,480 this is just getting to be a little bit 746 00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:54,300 mind-boggling here to put it mildly so 747 00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:55,950 what is he determined I'm not going to 748 00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:57,510 ask you how because they say you don't 749 00:34:01,130 --> 00:33:59,580 know the math after I tell this you know 750 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:01,140 we might as well just to hang up the 751 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:04,650 show because we've spilled the beans 752 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:06,840 well let's just keep spilling it no 753 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:09,510 matter what I will persevere ok all 754 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:09,810 right 755 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:12,720 doctor cuts through as I said some 756 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:16,350 advanced mathematics and constants based 757 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:19,350 on the Big Bang Theory he says that the 758 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,050 material for these objects comes from 759 00:34:27,260 --> 00:34:24,240 about one third away across the Milky 760 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:27,270 Way galaxy now I can't understand that 761 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:30,270 at all how what kind of mathematics can 762 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:33,150 determine that even if you were right 763 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:35,700 why would it have to be erase one third 764 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:37,530 the way through the Milky Way galaxy I 765 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:39,030 would think with all the possible 766 00:34:44,330 --> 00:34:41,610 earth-like planets we have it could be a 767 00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:44,340 mere 30 40 light-years away wide that 768 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:46,980 far all right well I'll explain that as 769 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:47,910 best as I can 770 00:34:54,650 --> 00:34:50,940 number one he's based a constant based 771 00:34:59,300 --> 00:34:54,660 on the time of the Big Bang at the Big 772 00:35:03,350 --> 00:34:59,310 Bang elements were fused and formed and 773 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:03,360 then they degraded over a period of time 774 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:06,690 and to their various isotopes and as 775 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:09,930 again we were talking about u-235 that 776 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:12,390 has to do with the number of neutrons 777 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:14,550 and protons that are in the nucleus of 778 00:35:22,850 --> 00:35:17,970 the uranium atom but if we mined uranium 779 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:22,860 anywhere on earth the ratio of 235 to 780 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:26,760 234 etc is approximately the same within 781 00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:30,090 2% if we mined the same element or 782 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:32,340 uranium and it comes from an asteroid a 783 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:36,570 meteorite Mars of the moon we know what 784 00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:38,610 those elements to look like some of them 785 00:35:43,819 --> 00:35:41,160 we can say that's an entree 786 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:43,829 but those are non-terrestrial elements 787 00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:46,910 and non-terrestrial isotopes of uranium 788 00:35:54,259 --> 00:35:51,599 now he you dr. crunch uses this as I 789 00:35:57,710 --> 00:35:54,269 said they're going to back to the date 790 00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:57,720 of the Big Bang where an element will 791 00:36:03,859 --> 00:36:00,599 essentially change through its isotopic 792 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:03,869 ratio in other words if you let uranium 793 00:36:10,549 --> 00:36:07,170 become old enough the isotope fuse and 794 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:10,559 become led if you take other elements 795 00:36:16,279 --> 00:36:12,930 that can change and they can transmute 796 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:16,289 into for example beryllium so he looks 797 00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:19,730 at the time that it takes before the 798 00:36:26,359 --> 00:36:23,460 isotopes begin to change and that way 799 00:36:28,370 --> 00:36:26,369 he's able to calculate a constant with a 800 00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:28,380 distance factor I'll tell you what we 801 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,750 have a distance factor facing us right 802 00:36:35,259 --> 00:36:32,640 now severe one we got do the break 803 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:35,269 dr. 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eight five five 903 00:40:29,950 --> 00:40:27,080 three zero one team that's eight five 904 00:40:31,390 --> 00:40:29,960 five three zero one team hi this is ten 905 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,400 Anderson have you ever wondered why 906 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:33,440 banks stock Parker's investment advisors 907 00:40:37,210 --> 00:40:35,450 won't talk about gold IRA s they've been 908 00:40:39,010 --> 00:40:37,220 available since nineteen eighty six yet 909 00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:39,020 the financial industry won't recognize 910 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:40,940 the value of gold for your retirement 911 00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:42,890 gold has outperformed paper investments 912 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,080 yet no word about IRAs if you would like 913 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,200 to have gold for your retirement call 914 00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:50,000 866 two two three seven don't get left 915 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:51,680 behind by rising inflation and low 916 00:41:00,960 --> 00:40:55,010 returns call 866 two to thirty seven 917 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:05,750 [Music] 918 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:08,370 this is the wrong tire co-author of the 919 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:10,650 UFO encyclopedia in other books you're 920 00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:17,010 listening to the parrot cap okay so 921 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:18,420 maybe we're going into the geek world 922 00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:20,520 here trying to explain what all this is 923 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:23,460 about but I guess I understand since we 924 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:24,930 know something of the moon we can look 925 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:26,910 at half-lives and things like that 926 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:29,490 and kind of guess about conditions there 927 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:32,190 and about what these substances might be 928 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:34,890 but how do you do that with a place that 929 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:37,440 you don't even know exists well if you 930 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,780 don't really have to know the place but 931 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:42,240 you do have to know the distance and how 932 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:45,870 long it takes for the light to reach us 933 00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:48,630 for example from the Alpha Centauri and 934 00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:54,480 so on so that's how astronomically they 935 00:42:00,800 --> 00:41:57,950 were able to calculate distances between 936 00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:00,810 celestial bodies which incidentally is 937 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:03,480 another subject because the Goethe 938 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:05,610 catalog of star distances is going to 939 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:09,210 have to be re-written not to go off on a 940 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:11,310 long tangent but you're wondering why 941 00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:14,010 I'm making that statement Einstein's 942 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:16,520 theory has never been proven wrong 943 00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:19,380 theories relativity our theory of a 944 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:22,860 minor relativity it still holds water 945 00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:25,530 today but you have to realize that most 946 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:27,990 of his calculations were Mason made on 947 00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:31,770 the speed of light in a vacuum and at 948 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:33,750 one time there was an assumption that 949 00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:36,060 space was a vacuum well now we know 950 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:38,100 through modern science that space is not 951 00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:41,100 a vacuum it's filled with high-energy 952 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:45,540 particles so let's take those are the 953 00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:48,750 star series for example we know that if 954 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,550 light travelled from service through a 955 00:42:54,590 --> 00:42:53,280 vacuum it would take so long to get here 956 00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:54,600 therefore we could calculate the 957 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,030 distance but that's not the way it works 958 00:43:03,950 --> 00:43:00,960 in space because a photon coming from a 959 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:03,960 celestial body will bang up against 960 00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:06,360 another hydrogen energy particle which 961 00:43:11,780 --> 00:43:09,300 will accelerate the photon so the light 962 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:11,790 will continuously go faster and faster 963 00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:14,580 and faster and faster so when you're 964 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:16,590 talking about the speed of light you're 965 00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,370 talking about something else 966 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:21,760 other than the Einstein equations of the 967 00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:24,250 speed of light and a vacuum so that said 968 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:27,340 one of these days the église catalog of 969 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:29,710 star distances there's gonna have to be 970 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:32,470 totally rewritten now this comes into 971 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:35,110 play with the dr. constants calculation 972 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:38,710 of the isotopic ratio and conversion to 973 00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:42,160 other elements it takes so long to do it 974 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:44,860 a certain length of time and that time 975 00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:47,560 has a relativity to distance and there 976 00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:49,900 are forests calculation is one-third 977 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:54,340 away across the web Milky Way galaxy now 978 00:44:01,890 --> 00:43:58,450 to borrow Stanton Friedman's paradigms 979 00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:01,900 or thoughts sometimes he has the strange 980 00:44:08,130 --> 00:44:05,470 ones but Sam simply said if you live in 981 00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:08,140 New York you don't go to New Jersey to 982 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:10,630 buy a loaf of bread well that's easy for 983 00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:15,490 you to say well I know if that's true 984 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:17,590 because I don't live in New York and I 985 00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:20,110 don't go to New Jersey makes makes kind 986 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:24,040 of sense so if you're going to if you're 987 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:26,410 going to mine certain products now most 988 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:30,090 of these objects contain what are called 989 00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:33,130 meteoric iron and meteoric iron that's 990 00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:35,740 meteoric iron because the ratio of the 991 00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:38,980 nickel elements iron is such that it 992 00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:41,980 becomes meteoric okay let's kind of 993 00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:43,480 summarize this because there's a lot of 994 00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,790 science here that may go over the heads 995 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:47,680 of people like me who are in our 996 00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:49,650 scientists ok so let's look at this in 997 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:52,360 the sense of we have something here it 998 00:44:57,450 --> 00:44:53,770 possibly indicates an advanced 999 00:45:00,030 --> 00:44:57,460 technology ok I'm sorry to correct you 1000 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:00,040 ok so it's not an advanced technology no 1001 00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:04,480 it's not a hypothesis it's a reality we 1002 00:45:10,590 --> 00:45:07,710 have objects that represent advanced 1003 00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:10,600 technology that's far beyond what we 1004 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:11,620 know today 1005 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:14,260 so are we assuming then of these are 1006 00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:17,950 like futuristic or advanced RFD chips 1007 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,200 what sort of things would they be are we 1008 00:45:24,810 --> 00:45:22,240 assuming these probes have a value in 1009 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,820 that sense that you monitor what's 1010 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:26,560 happening with the being into which its 1011 00:45:32,310 --> 00:45:29,230 implanted that is correct 1012 00:45:36,310 --> 00:45:32,320 comparing them to an RFD chip is 1013 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:36,320 like comparing a modern television set 1014 00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:38,930 to a crystal set but the analogy in 1015 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:42,020 essence is true it's a data gathering 1016 00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:46,730 device and it's a device which we can 1017 00:45:53,609 --> 00:45:50,630 detect outgoing radio frequencies which 1018 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,619 we have done and through some 1019 00:46:00,010 --> 00:45:56,240 methodologies which I can't go into 1020 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:00,020 because I have data that is relatively 1021 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:02,510 secret coming from the government that 1022 00:46:09,010 --> 00:46:06,160 will show that these frequencies are 1023 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:09,020 considered fixed or mobile deep-space 1024 00:46:14,650 --> 00:46:11,710 frequencies which in itself presents 1025 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:14,660 another conundrum and another subject 1026 00:46:20,170 --> 00:46:16,490 well the conundrum is here you're 1027 00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:20,180 talking about secret information and I 1028 00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:21,800 understand someone gives you something 1029 00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:24,380 on the Qt you don't want to reveal the 1030 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:26,510 source other than the government but can 1031 00:46:30,130 --> 00:46:28,609 you give us a general idea of what we're 1032 00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:30,140 getting at here you're assuming the 1033 00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:31,820 government knows something about these 1034 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:34,220 implants no this is not relation to 1035 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:38,480 implants this is in relation to into the 1036 00:46:45,690 --> 00:46:42,190 frequencies for example I have 1037 00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:45,700 information for every single satellite 1038 00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:48,200 that's an orbit owned by everything 1039 00:46:52,359 --> 00:46:50,390 every single country and the free coin 1040 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:52,369 of frequencies they're broadcasting on 1041 00:46:57,460 --> 00:46:55,250 so when I say the frequencies that are 1042 00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,470 coming out of these objects are fixed or 1043 00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:00,800 mobile deep-space frequencies it means 1044 00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:04,430 that who was ever receiving this on the 1045 00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:07,310 other end somewhere in deep space but as 1046 00:47:13,060 --> 00:47:09,430 I said it's quite a conundrum because 1047 00:47:15,579 --> 00:47:13,070 what advanced civilization would even be 1048 00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,589 operating with a radio wave isn't that 1049 00:47:20,349 --> 00:47:17,839 also other deficiencies of things like 1050 00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:20,359 SETI which is trying to look for radio 1051 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,030 waves for evidence of intelligent life 1052 00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:25,280 in the universe are they even using the 1053 00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:27,950 right frequencies well here we go again 1054 00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:31,880 with uncle Stan treatment who called 1055 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:34,310 SETI silly effort to investigate of 1056 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:36,770 course not using radio waves to detect 1057 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:40,089 life would be like trying to find a 1058 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:43,369 civilization out there that's about our 1059 00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:45,850 age and the radio wave 1060 00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:47,980 emanating in the space would take 1061 00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:50,350 probably a few million years for it to 1062 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:52,990 get here so but that time they'd be a 1063 00:48:00,590 --> 00:47:55,930 lot older so it's just absolutely 1064 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:00,600 nonsense most probably there's only two 1065 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:03,370 possible or probable answers to the 1066 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:06,850 conundrum one is that some human based 1067 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:09,850 technology is eavesdropping on the data 1068 00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:12,970 that's coming from these objects either 1069 00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:18,550 through a deal or other means and the 1070 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:21,960 other possibility is that the 1071 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:24,970 methodology used from these nano 1072 00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:28,540 technological objects are not radio 1073 00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:30,550 waves at all but they're scalar wave 1074 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:33,220 technology now I've discussed this again 1075 00:48:38,970 --> 00:48:37,030 with scientists or in researching scalar 1076 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:38,980 waves which travel faster than the speed 1077 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:42,490 of light when a scalar wave hits our 1078 00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:46,450 electromagnetic spectrum it can give off 1079 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:49,180 what's called a harmonic you know you 1080 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:51,100 know what that is if you're doing 1081 00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:53,410 dealing with radio I mean you know you 1082 00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:55,420 can get one station on another frequency 1083 00:49:01,170 --> 00:48:58,690 because of a harmonic right of course so 1084 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:01,180 if you're using scalar wave technology 1085 00:49:08,190 --> 00:49:05,170 and it's our electromagnetic spectrum we 1086 00:49:10,830 --> 00:49:08,200 may be interpreting it as a radio wave 1087 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:10,840 but it may not actually be let me ask 1088 00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:12,670 you the larger question here the big 1089 00:49:18,030 --> 00:49:15,400 problem about communicating across space 1090 00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:18,040 many light-years is the limitation of 1091 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:19,390 the speed of light you send your message 1092 00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:21,850 and you're long gone in dead by the time 1093 00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:24,310 it reaches its destination so do we have 1094 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:26,080 some kind of subspace system that 1095 00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:28,810 bypasses this radio waves through a 1096 00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:30,670 space warp or something how would that 1097 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:34,900 happen you are a thinker and this 1098 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:38,770 subject was addressed in the strangest 1099 00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:41,920 of places by Gene Roddenberry and Star 1100 00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:45,790 Trek subspace subspace and subspace 1101 00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:49,150 merely is a form of communication in 1102 00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:52,060 which you're using a methodology which 1103 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:54,670 is a hell of a lot faster than the speed 1104 00:49:59,310 --> 00:49:57,850 of light of course that's just somebody 1105 00:50:01,740 --> 00:49:59,320 theorizing 1106 00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:01,750 in the 1960s over a technology but 1107 00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:05,230 mostly is a plot gimmick I mean that's 1108 00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:07,000 what a lot of things were done and a way 1109 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:09,670 to save on special effects and having to 1110 00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:11,170 build spaceships and showing them 1111 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:13,870 landing you had a transporter not 1112 00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:15,850 because he believed necessarily in the 1113 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:17,740 transporter concept of being able to 1114 00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:19,960 send people down a few hundred miles to 1115 00:50:25,530 --> 00:50:21,580 the surface of a planet or from one 1116 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:25,540 location to another on a planet but to 1117 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,230 cut down on production costs so subspace 1118 00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:30,640 we realized look we can't have people 1119 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,820 communicating from one place to another 1120 00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:36,160 right and wait years or centuries for 1121 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:37,510 the messages we had to come up with a 1122 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:39,970 scheme that allows the communication to 1123 00:50:45,140 --> 00:50:42,610 be instantaneous both with the plot 1124 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:45,150 gimmick it was a plot gimmick but 1125 00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:47,650 strangely enough some of the plot 1126 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:51,550 gimmicks used in Star Trek are now being 1127 00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,170 used today's reality the communicator 1128 00:51:04,050 --> 00:50:58,720 that they all used was today's flip 1129 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:04,060 phone the Motorola StarTAC using wrist 1130 00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:05,290 phones though because we're now talking 1131 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:07,480 about an eye watch but that was Dick 1132 00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:10,630 Tracy wasn't yeah years and years ago 1133 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:14,830 but look at duck bones when they went in 1134 00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:17,920 through the belly button and you know 1135 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:21,280 did some stuff and there you go hey now 1136 00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:23,770 we got now we 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six nine three six 1193 00:53:55,069 --> 00:53:46,940 seven eight pro em1 1194 00:54:03,079 --> 00:53:58,799 welcome back to the para cast the gold 1195 00:54:10,469 --> 00:54:03,089 standard of paranormal radio and now 1196 00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:10,479 here's Jane Steinberg we have dr. Roger 1197 00:54:14,849 --> 00:54:12,430 Leir joining gene and Chris on the para 1198 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:14,859 cast enough jokes about bones McCoy and 1199 00:54:19,739 --> 00:54:16,930 Star Trek because there'll be a new Star 1200 00:54:22,979 --> 00:54:19,749 Trek movie coming in May star trek into 1201 00:54:25,979 --> 00:54:22,989 darkness without Khan and I won't do 1202 00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:25,989 that invitation dr. Leir we have some 1203 00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:28,900 questions from our audience at forum dr. 1204 00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:30,670 Peric ascom I know you've seen some of 1205 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:32,559 these questions we'll try to focus on 1206 00:54:36,299 --> 00:54:34,569 the alien implant ones this particular 1207 00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:36,309 occasion and we'll see where it goes 1208 00:54:41,279 --> 00:54:39,009 Chris Young but the blabby boys been a 1209 00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:41,289 poster for a couple of years at forum 1210 00:54:46,739 --> 00:54:44,499 dr. Peric ascom and he has a quite a 1211 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:46,749 number of very I think well thought-out 1212 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:49,390 questions and I want to go ahead and 1213 00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:52,930 sort of combine one particular group of 1214 00:54:56,579 --> 00:54:54,609 questions into a single question and 1215 00:54:59,579 --> 00:54:56,589 that is have you seen any real 1216 00:55:01,979 --> 00:54:59,589 consistency between these implants and 1217 00:55:05,279 --> 00:55:01,989 what are you also seeing any sort of 1218 00:55:07,319 --> 00:55:05,289 evolution from in in some sort of sense 1219 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:07,329 from the early 90s when you first 1220 00:55:11,309 --> 00:55:09,130 started getting into this until the 1221 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:11,319 present day the answer to the first 1222 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:14,249 question is yes we have seven or eight 1223 00:55:20,009 --> 00:55:17,650 to be exact that if you laid them all 1224 00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:20,019 out on surgical sponges you wouldn't be 1225 00:55:27,569 --> 00:55:22,420 able to tell one from the other now we 1226 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:27,579 do have let's say we can divide them 1227 00:55:32,339 --> 00:55:29,890 into several categories we have those 1228 00:55:34,709 --> 00:55:32,349 that are metallic and we have those that 1229 00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:34,719 are nonmetallic and we have one which is 1230 00:55:41,849 --> 00:55:38,049 totally biological now whether there's a 1231 00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:41,859 an evolutionary event occurring or 1232 00:55:48,689 --> 00:55:45,640 whether perhaps one species drives a 1233 00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:48,699 Ford and another drives a Lexus I'm not 1234 00:55:55,499 --> 00:55:52,390 quite so sure but good analogy most of 1235 00:55:59,009 --> 00:55:55,509 the objects that we look at all the 1236 00:56:04,109 --> 00:55:59,019 morphology other than the eight may look 1237 00:56:07,259 --> 00:56:04,119 different we as I mentioned before we 1238 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:07,269 never looked in the beginning to see if 1239 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:08,210 these contain 1240 00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:11,330 Carbon nanostructures because besides us 1241 00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:13,400 themselves were arguing on the fact that 1242 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:16,070 Cartman nanostructures couldn't exist so 1243 00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:18,530 if they can't exist in nature then you 1244 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:20,630 can't build one then you know why bother 1245 00:56:26,020 --> 00:56:23,570 looking but now you know not only do 1246 00:56:29,140 --> 00:56:26,030 they don't exist in nature but we can't 1247 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:29,150 build them and we're using them Japan is 1248 00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:31,490 working on using them to weave into 1249 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:34,580 fiber for clothing so that you could 1250 00:56:39,460 --> 00:56:37,490 keep a portion warm in the winter and 1251 00:56:42,070 --> 00:56:39,470 cool in the summer or a lady can change 1252 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:42,080 the pattern on a dress the space 1253 00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:44,570 industry is looking at it to build a 1254 00:56:51,310 --> 00:56:47,720 mile how a tower from the earth to a 1255 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:51,320 launch space vehicle therefore defeating 1256 00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,530 some of the gravitational effect and 1257 00:57:01,120 --> 00:56:57,040 therefore it's a money-saving device 1258 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:01,130 base elevator right space elevator it's 1259 00:57:05,530 --> 00:57:02,810 the strongest substance known to man 1260 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:05,540 that's being used in advanced aircraft 1261 00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:09,530 design it responds and almost in an 1262 00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:13,790 organic manner to electrical currents 1263 00:57:18,790 --> 00:57:16,550 electronically being applied to it you 1264 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:18,800 know and as I said we just skipped over 1265 00:57:24,670 --> 00:57:21,080 the surface of what we find in these 1266 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:24,680 objects but the carbon nanotubes 1267 00:57:32,859 --> 00:57:29,080 themselves wind up as carbon nanofibers 1268 00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,869 which let's say we look at it audience 1269 00:57:37,089 --> 00:57:34,880 wise you take two wires and you wind 1270 00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:37,099 them together we have a carbon nano 1271 00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:39,080 fiber and then when you take these pay 1272 00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:42,260 wire pairs and you wind them together we 1273 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:43,790 have something that looks like a cable 1274 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:46,250 so that's the carbon nano strand and 1275 00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:49,990 then we find these ending 1276 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:52,990 and what we call ortho rhombic sodium 1277 00:57:58,430 --> 00:57:55,690 chloride crystals that make that very 1278 00:58:02,460 --> 00:57:58,440 clear all it is is a sodium chloride 1279 00:58:05,090 --> 00:58:02,470 rectangle of various shapes now sodium 1280 00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:05,100 chloride nature doesn't come has 1281 00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:08,830 rectangles they come and are in random 1282 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:11,110 crystals and random crystallization 1283 00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:15,250 there is no specific no specific crystal 1284 00:58:22,050 --> 00:58:19,140 form form so that said we skipped over 1285 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:22,060 something that doesn't include all of 1286 00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:23,290 what we find either 1287 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:26,080 well another couple of questions a 1288 00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:28,510 blobby boy has has to do with how these 1289 00:58:34,260 --> 00:58:31,720 objects may or may not integrate with 1290 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:34,270 with the human body and he says some 1291 00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:36,850 alleged implants are said to have some 1292 00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:39,220 sort form of coating to allow them to 1293 00:58:42,990 --> 00:58:40,540 live within the host without upsetting 1294 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:43,000 the host natural defenses has this 1295 00:58:47,490 --> 00:58:45,369 remain consistent or or have you noticed 1296 00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:47,500 any implants that appear to start to 1297 00:58:51,090 --> 00:58:49,390 integrate directly with the hose like 1298 00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:51,100 latching on the nerves bones or other 1299 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:54,460 organic tissue both we find the number 1300 00:59:00,240 --> 00:58:56,530 one that there's no inflammatory or 1301 00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:00,250 rejection reaction to the object but we 1302 00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:04,750 have found over half of them have nerve 1303 00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:08,830 cells that have grown into the organic 1304 00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:12,220 material that surrounds the object you 1305 00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:15,270 know kind of fusing into it but that's 1306 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:18,760 again some advanced technology that 1307 00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:21,340 we're just looking at we used to think 1308 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:26,160 that oh maybe whoever is building these 1309 00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:29,590 take something of the host skin or 1310 00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:32,980 whatever whatever I uses the DNA and 1311 00:59:38,910 --> 00:59:35,980 then dips the object in the hosts own 1312 00:59:41,370 --> 00:59:38,920 DNA and then implants that but now that 1313 00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:41,380 theory looks like it's going out the 1314 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:44,470 window because as the research advances 1315 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:48,730 so does the technological ability to to 1316 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:51,010 look at these things and the apparatus 1317 00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:54,490 also begins to change for example the 1318 01:00:01,680 --> 00:59:58,570 electron microscope with let's say using 1319 01:00:02,370 --> 01:00:01,690 10,000 kilovolts used to produce an 1320 01:00:06,210 --> 01:00:02,380 image 1321 01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:06,220 maybe a 95,000 times magnification and 1322 01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:08,620 then as you increase the kilovolt egde 1323 01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:11,460 you get what's called scattering now at 1324 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:15,180 20,000 kilovolts we can look at things 1325 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:19,330 750 thousand times magnification so the 1326 01:00:24,620 --> 01:00:21,610 equipment does change and by doing that 1327 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:24,630 we can learn more but the point being 1328 01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:29,770 which which I have to to mention is that 1329 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:34,000 it appears again you know don't quote me 1330 01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,610 on this because it's not solid fact when 1331 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:39,040 something's in fact I'll tell you but it 1332 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:41,650 appears that there is what's called a 1333 01:00:48,570 --> 01:00:45,310 phase in which the inorganic material 1334 01:00:52,170 --> 01:00:48,580 that the object is made of becomes 1335 01:00:56,490 --> 01:00:52,180 organic in other words it becomes living 1336 01:01:00,180 --> 01:00:56,500 tissue and that is the phase which seems 1337 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:00,190 to attract nerve cells which at one time 1338 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:03,430 we thought these devices were using the 1339 01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:06,610 body's own neuro energy system as we do 1340 01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:11,560 with amputee orthotics UCLA is not a 1341 01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:15,430 long project on this but now we think 1342 01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:20,020 that the energy that makes these objects 1343 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:22,600 tick so to speak that may also be 1344 01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:26,730 broadcast into the object and the body 1345 01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:28,990 being that most of these things are 1346 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:31,540 close to the bone the skeletal structure 1347 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:34,690 of rubato is being used as an antenna I 1348 01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:37,660 have a first question here still this is 1349 01:01:40,290 --> 01:01:39,670 almost new stuff yeah that's that's 1350 01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,300 amazing 1351 01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:42,160 yeah I have a stupid question before we 1352 01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:44,110 go on in each case where you've had 1353 01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:47,380 these implants first of all they were 1354 01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:51,430 look for discovered after you became 1355 01:01:56,130 --> 01:01:53,380 aware that person had an abduction 1356 01:01:58,110 --> 01:01:56,140 experience that's correct we had to sit 1357 01:02:01,020 --> 01:01:58,120 down a strict set of criteria and 1358 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:01,030 protocols because as I said there are 1359 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:02,890 millions of people all over the world 1360 01:02:08,660 --> 01:02:05,290 who every day are getting foreign 1361 01:02:11,490 --> 01:02:08,670 objects within their body so we have to 1362 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:11,500 delineate those from those that have had 1363 01:02:16,329 --> 01:02:15,370 some kind of a UFO sighting David Jacobs 1364 01:02:19,299 --> 01:02:16,339 for exam 1365 01:02:23,259 --> 01:02:19,309 says that anyone that has a prolonged 1366 01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:23,269 sighting of a UFO may be an abductee so 1367 01:02:27,749 --> 01:02:25,249 they have to not only come to us 1368 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:27,759 initially with an x-ray or a cat scan 1369 01:02:33,569 --> 01:02:30,650 that shows some kind of an object but 1370 01:02:37,569 --> 01:02:33,579 they also have to be somehow tied into 1371 01:02:39,459 --> 01:02:37,579 the UFO field or abduction program I 1372 01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:39,469 have another dumb question here which is 1373 01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:42,529 what about a control sample of people 1374 01:02:46,479 --> 01:02:44,479 who have something embedded in their 1375 01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:46,489 bodies who haven't had or haven't 1376 01:02:51,569 --> 01:02:48,680 recalled abductions to see what they 1377 01:02:54,339 --> 01:02:51,579 might have oh we have thousands of those 1378 01:02:58,779 --> 01:02:54,349 I've been in practice now for 50 years 1379 01:03:02,859 --> 01:02:58,789 I've removed hair paper nail metal coral 1380 01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:02,869 even a hair can I produce a foreign body 1381 01:03:07,870 --> 01:03:05,420 reaction but one of the things I did 1382 01:03:11,650 --> 01:03:07,880 remember once was a piece of metal and 1383 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:11,660 the patient came in referred to me by an 1384 01:03:17,170 --> 01:03:13,930 industry here in Southern California 1385 01:03:21,219 --> 01:03:17,180 with the two companions who were wearing 1386 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:21,229 suits and seven other intimidating idea 1387 01:03:29,739 --> 01:03:26,569 and identification rather they stood 1388 01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:29,749 there doing the whole surgery and we 1389 01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:31,729 removed the object and they said thank 1390 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:34,910 you and took it there you go we have dr. 1391 01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:37,369 Roger Leir joining gene and Chris you're 1392 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:39,720 in the para cast 1393 01:03:52,130 --> 01:03:49,849 don't complain about your cable bill 1394 01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:52,140 going up and up and up do something 1395 01:03:57,620 --> 01:03:54,270 about it grab a pencil and jot down this 1396 01:04:00,170 --> 01:03:57,630 special number 1 877 beat 0 for my TV 1397 01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,180 the more cable TV rates go up the better 1398 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:03,119 digital satellite TV looks so disabled 1399 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:04,530 the cable and get more of your favorite 1400 01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:07,530 channels in 100% digital quality for 1401 01:04:12,289 --> 01:04:09,359 less money call one eight seven seven 1402 01:04:14,030 --> 01:04:12,299 beat zero for my TV right now to sign up 1403 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01:07:56,650 the para cast send it to news at the 1474 01:08:01,560 --> 01:07:58,210 para cast com 1475 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:01,570 that's news at the para cast calm and 1476 01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:03,610 don't forget to visit our famous para 1477 01:08:10,590 --> 01:08:06,820 cast community forums at forum dot the 1478 01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:10,600 para cast comm in this part of our 1479 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:12,940 discussion with dr. Roger Leir on the 1480 01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:14,530 power cast for gene and Cris we've been 1481 01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:16,450 focusing very heavily on his 1482 01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:19,380 investigation into so-called alien 1483 01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:22,000 implants to see what's going on now is 1484 01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:23,950 there any possibility here at all and 1485 01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:26,319 I'm looking at this just as an outside 1486 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:28,660 possibility that where implants are 1487 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:31,690 found it's not aliens who are implanting 1488 01:08:35,999 --> 01:08:34,210 them but government agents for some 1489 01:08:37,499 --> 01:08:36,009 strange purpose using whatever 1490 01:08:39,570 --> 01:08:37,509 technology they have under the 1491 01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:39,580 development that's a pretty good 1492 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:42,100 question I get that I get asked that 1493 01:08:49,499 --> 01:08:45,730 quite often you're staying away from the 1494 01:08:50,610 --> 01:08:49,509 from calling a spade a spade and that's 1495 01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:50,620 black-budget 1496 01:08:55,289 --> 01:08:53,020 technology which they say well let's 1497 01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:55,299 just say that's implied that there is 1498 01:08:59,700 --> 01:08:57,910 possibly some top-secret technology that 1499 01:09:03,090 --> 01:08:59,710 would make it possible to build these 1500 01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:03,100 things so basically Uncle Sam or those 1501 01:09:07,769 --> 01:09:05,380 engaged in black projects private 1502 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:07,779 industry whatever they are spying on us 1503 01:09:13,470 --> 01:09:10,690 it's not et alright let's let's look at 1504 01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:13,480 that particular and I can assure you 1505 01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:17,440 that that is not the case case in point 1506 01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:20,950 a laboratory that she'll go unmentioned 1507 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:24,460 in Texas became a total black budget 1508 01:09:29,519 --> 01:09:26,890 laboratories I was one of the few 1509 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:29,529 individuals who was probably the last 1510 01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:31,930 one in the UFO field that ever got 1511 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:34,540 objects into this laboratory now they're 1512 01:09:41,090 --> 01:09:37,810 working on advanced technology here we 1513 01:09:44,190 --> 01:09:41,100 see a situation in which I am virtually 1514 01:09:46,150 --> 01:09:44,200 forced out into the hall where 1515 01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:46,160 scientists are crowded into 1516 01:09:51,190 --> 01:09:48,710 home looking through the electron 1517 01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:51,200 microscope but some of the objects that 1518 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:54,830 I brought in standing there 15 feet away 1519 01:09:59,290 --> 01:09:56,810 from me is the director of the 1520 01:10:02,560 --> 01:09:59,300 laboratory with a hand on each hip and 1521 01:10:05,050 --> 01:10:02,570 not a smile on his face these are 1522 01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:05,060 government employees and they're being 1523 01:10:10,930 --> 01:10:08,480 paid by the government and I'm sure that 1524 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:10,940 the lab director is not happy that 1525 01:10:15,670 --> 01:10:13,610 they're taking time away from their own 1526 01:10:18,610 --> 01:10:15,680 particular projects to look at something 1527 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:18,620 that he didn't think they should be 1528 01:10:24,940 --> 01:10:21,290 looking at so here it just goes to show 1529 01:10:27,940 --> 01:10:24,950 you that black budget scientists and now 1530 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:27,950 I've gotten to know a few of them are so 1531 01:10:32,410 --> 01:10:31,010 far away from anything like this that 1532 01:10:35,230 --> 01:10:32,420 even if there are a hundred years 1533 01:10:37,330 --> 01:10:35,240 advanced as I said this one company said 1534 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:37,340 don't show me anything that's a hundred 1535 01:10:41,770 --> 01:10:38,930 years advanced because we probably 1536 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:41,780 already have it or know about it so this 1537 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:43,970 is stuff they don't know about so I 1538 01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:46,730 don't think that I think this is a good 1539 01:10:53,740 --> 01:10:50,000 indication that these are not projects 1540 01:10:56,860 --> 01:10:53,750 of humankind Chris you want to find some 1541 01:10:58,990 --> 01:10:56,870 home I just want to ask a question of my 1542 01:11:01,060 --> 01:10:59,000 own and that is you know you've looked 1543 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:01,070 at you have 16 objects that you feel are 1544 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:01,850 bonafide 1545 01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,610 and I'm just wondering what is the 1546 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:06,320 motivation to implant people is this 1547 01:11:11,710 --> 01:11:09,530 kind of like earth scientists tracking 1548 01:11:14,020 --> 01:11:11,720 polar bears or doing some sort of 1549 01:11:15,850 --> 01:11:14,030 environmental study what do you think 1550 01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:15,860 the motivations and the agenda is behind 1551 01:11:22,150 --> 01:11:18,560 implanting humans with these objects hey 1552 01:11:24,370 --> 01:11:22,160 you guys ask good questions because if I 1553 01:11:27,250 --> 01:11:24,380 was sitting in your shoes that's one of 1554 01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:27,260 the primary questions I would ask know 1555 01:11:32,020 --> 01:11:30,110 what's it all about what's it for now 1556 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:32,030 you got to look at the bigger picture in 1557 01:11:37,090 --> 01:11:34,610 order to try and fear theorize then I'll 1558 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:37,100 emphasize that theorize and answer 1559 01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:39,650 because if anybody says they had all the 1560 01:11:43,870 --> 01:11:41,510 answers then you better put a finger in 1561 01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:43,880 each year and run as fast as you can we 1562 01:11:51,130 --> 01:11:47,270 don't there's true too much well you 1563 01:11:54,130 --> 01:11:51,140 just said that was that was a truism hey 1564 01:11:56,150 --> 01:11:54,140 you bet so look at the general picture 1565 01:11:59,010 --> 01:11:56,160 of man 1566 01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:59,020 you know and how we've been kept in the 1567 01:12:04,620 --> 01:12:02,080 dark so you have to go back into you 1568 01:12:08,010 --> 01:12:04,630 know very ancient times and to 1569 01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:08,020 understand what man might be or where 1570 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:11,380 man might have come from I believe that 1571 01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:15,250 the abduction process in itself and I'm 1572 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:17,560 sure you'll agree if you've read any 1573 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:18,970 literature and I know you're both 1574 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:22,960 informed the individuals who undergo an 1575 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:25,270 abduction I've been in 42 countries in 1576 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:27,450 seven years it's not much different 1577 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,970 Brazil than it is than Israel or here in 1578 01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:32,800 the United States a little bit different 1579 01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:35,710 stories but the mainstay over 90 percent 1580 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:39,040 involved the taking of OVA and sperm now 1581 01:12:43,890 --> 01:12:42,130 that does not mean that these guys who 1582 01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:43,900 are doing this they're working for the 1583 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:45,900 cooking channel and making omelets 1584 01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:48,130 doubtedly there's something genetic 1585 01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:51,870 that's going on so if you have a genetic 1586 01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:54,490 manipulation going on don't you think 1587 01:13:00,780 --> 01:12:56,800 you'd want to find out what the results 1588 01:13:04,110 --> 01:13:00,790 of this genetic manipulation is without 1589 01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:04,120 having to re abduct somebody 150 times 1590 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:07,600 over a period of their young lifetime so 1591 01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:10,090 you would do it remotely now based on 1592 01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,120 human logic and I repeat that again 1593 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:16,000 human logic how do we know what the 1594 01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:17,770 logic is of a highly advanced 1595 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:20,380 civilization could we ever even conceive 1596 01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:23,170 what their logic is could we could we 1597 01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:25,900 even communicate with them if they came 1598 01:13:29,790 --> 01:13:27,880 here but you know but that's maybe 1599 01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:29,800 putting the cart before the horse we 1600 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:32,620 have to first determine there is an 1601 01:13:37,170 --> 01:13:34,960 advanced race from somewhere else at 1602 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:37,180 claim and we can worry about the motives 1603 01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:40,770 well you wanted an answer to 1604 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:43,510 theoretically of what the implants are 1605 01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:46,090 all about we know based on human logic 1606 01:13:50,970 --> 01:13:48,310 that if we want to study the hibernation 1607 01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:50,980 of bears for example do we have to tag 1608 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:53,710 every bear just as an example but that 1609 01:13:59,520 --> 01:13:56,770 also goes against what maybe is implied 1610 01:14:01,740 --> 01:13:59,530 by dr. David Jacobs which is that there 1611 01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:01,750 are millions of people who have been 1612 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:04,630 abducted it seems to me that only a few 1613 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:07,150 are necessary to cover the sexual and 1614 01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:09,370 racial characteristics and maybe sir 1615 01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,310 personality traits not if you want to 1616 01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:15,280 alter the human race in order to alter 1617 01:14:19,410 --> 01:14:17,260 the human race you have to have a 1618 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:19,420 certain number of people which are going 1619 01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:22,450 to alter their DNA and then you wait for 1620 01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:25,360 the progeny to occur and the way I look 1621 01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:28,390 at it and the world situation if you 1622 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:31,420 look at the kids today and I have never 1623 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:34,810 ever ever had an argument from any 1624 01:14:41,190 --> 01:14:37,450 parent or grandparent of a young child 1625 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:41,200 that compared them to someone that's 60 1626 01:14:49,170 --> 01:14:45,250 75 or 80 years old they don't need to go 1627 01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:49,180 to a TV or go to a book or have anybody 1628 01:14:53,610 --> 01:14:51,160 tell them certain things they already 1629 01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:53,620 know it the children today are the 1630 01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:55,510 future in the world and I think that 1631 01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:58,570 this is an addictive of what's going on 1632 01:15:03,330 --> 01:15:01,360 on a worldwide basis because if we look 1633 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:03,340 at the Middle East who is it that 1634 01:15:08,490 --> 01:15:05,800 actually fulminated the revolution in 1635 01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:08,500 Egypt it was all people less than 35 1636 01:15:13,230 --> 01:15:10,870 years of age using electronic media 1637 01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:13,240 that's not the older people this is a 1638 01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:16,270 new generation okay but that doesn't 1639 01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:17,830 mean we have to assume the new 1640 01:15:22,380 --> 01:15:19,750 generation as a result of some kind of 1641 01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:22,390 genetic manipulation does it alright 1642 01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:25,150 let's assume that that theory is wrong 1643 01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:28,960 then oh what other factors are going to 1644 01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:32,680 alter humankind to a better sort of 1645 01:15:37,230 --> 01:15:35,320 human being than we already have you 1646 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:37,240 name them okay you're putting the onus 1647 01:15:41,790 --> 01:15:39,730 on us right yeah but you know what I'm 1648 01:15:44,430 --> 01:15:41,800 not genetic expert I don't play one on 1649 01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:44,440 TV I don't pretend to know I am asking 1650 01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:45,520 the questions because you're the expert 1651 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:48,460 okay well I don't consider myself an 1652 01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:51,190 expert in genetics but I do consider 1653 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:54,430 myself a thinking human being with an 1654 01:16:00,420 --> 01:15:58,210 education and ancient knowledge and you 1655 01:16:03,090 --> 01:16:00,430 know theorizing where man came from in 1656 01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:03,100 the first place so looking at it in this 1657 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:05,920 way you know you can say okay it's 1658 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:09,070 environmental its evolutionary it's an 1659 01:16:15,150 --> 01:16:11,770 evolutionary tread evolution doesn't 1660 01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:15,160 occur in a period of 40 50 60 years not 1661 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:18,340 even so called fast evolution yes it's 1662 01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:21,010 it's a long process we'll continue this 1663 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:23,590 process if you want to get in touch with 1664 01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:26,050 contact us on Twitter where we're known 1665 01:16:31,530 --> 01:16:29,350 as the para cast we have dr. 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Roger Leir 1753 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:15,660 talking alien implants possible alien 1754 01:21:19,580 --> 01:21:17,250 implants and their implications with 1755 01:21:21,620 --> 01:21:19,590 gene and Chris and the power cast dr. 1756 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:21,630 Lee are you and started a response to 1757 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:23,130 what Chris had said would you continue 1758 01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:25,290 okay I think we were looking at the 1759 01:21:30,290 --> 01:21:28,140 possibilities of a change in human 1760 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:30,300 beings and the possible reasons that 1761 01:21:36,260 --> 01:21:33,810 they could occur before you continue dr. 1762 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:36,270 Leir the thing that springs to my mind 1763 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:39,210 is that if this is a is a motivation and 1764 01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:41,850 possibly you know an agenda then we 1765 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:43,920 shouldn't we be talking about millions 1766 01:21:50,690 --> 01:21:45,690 of people or at least hundreds of 1767 01:21:54,260 --> 01:21:50,700 thousands of people that are being just 1768 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:54,270 a small sampling of the human genetic 1769 01:21:59,360 --> 01:21:56,730 pool as it were it would take a long 1770 01:22:01,550 --> 01:21:59,370 time to have that fact or any any sort 1771 01:22:03,620 --> 01:22:01,560 of long-term changes but you have to 1772 01:22:06,740 --> 01:22:03,630 have a mass scale of manipulation to 1773 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:06,750 really enact some changes that are 1774 01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:08,730 predictable I would think absolutely 1775 01:22:13,310 --> 01:22:11,070 correct and now the Roper poll which I 1776 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:13,320 consider was a conservative poll done a 1777 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:16,410 93 in 96 said that there was 1778 01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,510 approximately two to three percent of 1779 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:20,400 the American population that was being 1780 01:22:25,340 --> 01:22:23,130 abducted and considered a conservative 1781 01:22:27,380 --> 01:22:25,350 poll because there was a lot of people 1782 01:22:30,050 --> 01:22:27,390 who wouldn't answer the questions now 1783 01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,060 you multiply this on a worldwide basis 1784 01:22:35,210 --> 01:22:32,400 and we're talking about millions and 1785 01:22:37,610 --> 01:22:35,220 millions of people if we look at a 1786 01:22:40,910 --> 01:22:37,620 laboratory study for example with with 1787 01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,920 rats or any fast breeding animal and 1788 01:22:46,460 --> 01:22:43,440 want to create genetic changes which we 1789 01:22:49,730 --> 01:22:46,470 can do how many of them do we have to do 1790 01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,740 before they enter the interplay with 1791 01:22:55,190 --> 01:22:52,080 each other and produce a total change 1792 01:22:57,650 --> 01:22:55,200 and the species well it's really not 1793 01:23:01,310 --> 01:22:57,660 that staggering a figure now I've done 1794 01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:01,320 Studies on growth factors and children 1795 01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:04,350 over a period of 40 years and they've 1796 01:23:10,820 --> 01:23:08,340 been accelerated from 16 to 86% now I'm 1797 01:23:13,010 --> 01:23:10,830 not talking about I accuse I'm talking 1798 01:23:15,170 --> 01:23:13,020 about the things like when a child can 1799 01:23:18,500 --> 01:23:15,180 raise its head when they can stand up in 1800 01:23:20,570 --> 01:23:18,510 a crib when they get their first simple 1801 01:23:23,150 --> 01:23:20,580 speech complex speech starck rock 1802 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:23,160 climbing and so on these are all facts 1803 01:23:27,140 --> 01:23:24,570 well you're talking about accelerated 1804 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:27,150 behavior and some sort of modification 1805 01:23:31,670 --> 01:23:29,370 of an acceleration of human behavior 1806 01:23:34,460 --> 01:23:31,680 it's not only acceleration of mutant 1807 01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:34,470 behavior but it's also an acceleration 1808 01:23:37,610 --> 01:23:37,260 of the mental processes of the human 1809 01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:37,620 being 1810 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:39,750 there are kids today who can do 1811 01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,410 psychometry who are telepathic 1812 01:23:47,420 --> 01:23:44,880 unfortunately they're put upon by their 1813 01:23:49,010 --> 01:23:47,430 parents so that they don't do these 1814 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:49,020 things because they find them 1815 01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:51,690 embarrassing but there are a greater 1816 01:23:56,030 --> 01:23:53,910 number of people that can do this and 1817 01:23:58,220 --> 01:23:56,040 I'll give you another example that's a 1818 01:24:00,800 --> 01:23:58,230 little closer to home a couple of years 1819 01:24:04,130 --> 01:24:00,810 ago I was in Philadelphia at the Science 1820 01:24:06,290 --> 01:24:04,140 Museum and they had a Leonardo da Vinci 1821 01:24:08,570 --> 01:24:06,300 display in which the museum's 1822 01:24:11,060 --> 01:24:08,580 actually spent the money to build out of 1823 01:24:14,210 --> 01:24:11,070 wood the mechanical devices that were 1824 01:24:17,890 --> 01:24:14,220 designed by Leonardo da Vinci in another 1825 01:24:21,530 --> 01:24:17,900 room there was about two dozen 1826 01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:21,540 pedestal stopped atop computers so that 1827 01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:23,880 the child between let's say seven and 1828 01:24:30,020 --> 01:24:26,820 ten years old could reach the top of it 1829 01:24:32,690 --> 01:24:30,030 their parents were undoubtedly young and 1830 01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:32,700 the 30s is certainly not over 40 what 1831 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:35,550 these kids were doing was taking the 1832 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:37,890 screens that were on the top of the 1833 01:24:42,590 --> 01:24:40,170 computers and throwing them up on 1834 01:24:45,650 --> 01:24:42,600 virtual screens like you see in Hawaii 1835 01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:45,660 five-o or some of the other television 1836 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:48,080 programs this is reality this is not for 1837 01:24:52,670 --> 01:24:50,730 entertainment fiction these computers 1838 01:24:55,190 --> 01:24:52,680 exist and then we got them right there 1839 01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:55,200 and Philadelphia in the museum well the 1840 01:24:59,930 --> 01:24:57,570 kids were building these objects that 1841 01:25:02,420 --> 01:24:59,940 were put together by the 1842 01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:02,430 Museum and the parents were standing 1843 01:25:06,890 --> 01:25:04,500 there scratching their head without the 1844 01:25:09,170 --> 01:25:06,900 slightest bit of understanding of what 1845 01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:09,180 the kids were doing now is this the same 1846 01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:11,070 human as as 1847 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:14,460 humans that were 35 years old I don't I 1848 01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:17,250 don't think so I'm an old guy but I have 1849 01:25:22,189 --> 01:25:20,280 trouble with my simplified cell phone I 1850 01:25:24,740 --> 01:25:22,199 don't know what to do with it I give it 1851 01:25:26,540 --> 01:25:24,750 to my 22 year old daughter you know and 1852 01:25:30,260 --> 01:25:26,550 if she can't figure it out she uses it 1853 01:25:32,030 --> 01:25:30,270 to my 9 year old granddaughter you have 1854 01:25:34,189 --> 01:25:32,040 to factor in environmental factors as 1855 01:25:36,110 --> 01:25:34,199 well I mean as as we progress and 1856 01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:36,120 reality becomes more and more complex in 1857 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:38,760 high-tech obviously you're going to see 1858 01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:42,210 an acceleration of young young people's 1859 01:25:46,939 --> 01:25:44,550 even even kids as young as three and 1860 01:25:48,590 --> 01:25:46,949 four operating computers and I think a 1861 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:48,600 lot of this has to do with environmental 1862 01:25:51,950 --> 01:25:49,770 factors I don't think you necessarily 1863 01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:51,960 have to blame some sort of genetic 1864 01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:54,750 manipulation on okay well maybe you can 1865 01:25:59,570 --> 01:25:56,880 produce the environmental factors that 1866 01:26:01,490 --> 01:25:59,580 are producing this kind of effect you 1867 01:26:03,020 --> 01:26:01,500 give me an example you know but you're 1868 01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,030 asking questions of the wrong people 1869 01:26:07,340 --> 01:26:05,040 here we're not scientists we're simply 1870 01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:07,350 trying to speculate on different 1871 01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:09,300 possibilities if what you're saying is 1872 01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:12,000 correct dr. Leir and you're only you're 1873 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:14,280 exclusively looking at individuals who 1874 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:16,050 have some sort of conscious recollection 1875 01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,810 of some sort of interaction with 1876 01:26:23,810 --> 01:26:21,360 something possibly off planet let's say 1877 01:26:25,850 --> 01:26:23,820 why do people recall and how what is 1878 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:25,860 that the operative mechanism that allows 1879 01:26:31,939 --> 01:26:28,770 them to recall and find these implants 1880 01:26:34,729 --> 01:26:31,949 spooky Mulder asks a series of very 1881 01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:34,739 interesting questions here he says why 1882 01:26:37,939 --> 01:26:36,360 do people recall and find these implants 1883 01:26:39,370 --> 01:26:37,949 do the aliens every now and then forget 1884 01:26:42,170 --> 01:26:39,380 to bring along a board-certified 1885 01:26:44,090 --> 01:26:42,180 anesthesiologist and wouldn't the whole 1886 01:26:45,380 --> 01:26:44,100 idea of implant be performing a 1887 01:26:46,729 --> 01:26:45,390 procedure on someone that was 1888 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:46,739 unconscious at the time and they 1889 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:48,090 wouldn't recall these acts that were 1890 01:26:51,890 --> 01:26:49,890 being performed on them well isn't it a 1891 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:51,900 little presumptive to assume that the 1892 01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:53,850 person was unconscious in the first 1893 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:56,280 place well there's got to be some sort 1894 01:27:00,970 --> 01:26:58,530 of screen memory that's implanted or 1895 01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:00,980 some sort of hypnotic post hypnotic 1896 01:27:06,410 --> 01:27:04,110 suggestion I think I think that any 1897 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:06,420 advanced civilization that has the 1898 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:09,090 ability to read your mind and certainly 1899 01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:12,090 I've had that personal experience so 1900 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:13,360 you're talking to something 1901 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:15,730 that's undergone that including my wife 1902 01:27:20,220 --> 01:27:18,250 and my daughter and an experience that 1903 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,230 we had and a waffle and something years 1904 01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,000 ago I wrote about it in a book called 1905 01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:24,159 chopped liver but they have a way of 1906 01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:26,800 getting into your head and if they want 1907 01:27:32,399 --> 01:27:29,350 to produce an anesthesia they merely 1908 01:27:35,729 --> 01:27:32,409 suggest an anesthesia now as far as 1909 01:27:38,010 --> 01:27:35,739 recall is concerned most abductees don't 1910 01:27:40,620 --> 01:27:38,020 really have much of a deep recall they 1911 01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:40,630 they have things that come back that are 1912 01:27:45,209 --> 01:27:42,190 sort of spotty little little 1913 01:27:47,970 --> 01:27:45,219 recollections of things some wind up 1914 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:47,980 with fears and phobias for which they 1915 01:27:53,399 --> 01:27:50,770 have no explanation until somebody 1916 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:53,409 suggests that you know maybe they might 1917 01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:55,530 help undergoing regressive hypnotherapy 1918 01:28:01,229 --> 01:27:58,810 or there may wind up in a mental 1919 01:28:03,540 --> 01:28:01,239 institution or become an alcoholic or a 1920 01:28:06,209 --> 01:28:03,550 drug addicts because they can't get 1921 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:06,219 along with the situation as it is so 1922 01:28:10,830 --> 01:28:08,290 they don't all have complete memories 1923 01:28:12,899 --> 01:28:10,840 there's not one single case that I've 1924 01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:12,909 ever come across that had a complete 1925 01:28:18,090 --> 01:28:15,790 memory of the Total Recall of the 1926 01:28:20,330 --> 01:28:18,100 abduction process they have slight 1927 01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:20,340 memories some have more than others 1928 01:28:25,979 --> 01:28:23,230 when we started this investigation and 1929 01:28:28,530 --> 01:28:25,989 we did in the while anyone as a surgical 1930 01:28:32,220 --> 01:28:28,540 candidate a candidate to ever have 1931 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:32,230 undergone regressive hypnosis because we 1932 01:28:39,390 --> 01:28:35,170 didn't want the criticism you know but 1933 01:28:43,649 --> 01:28:39,400 now that's changed after doing you know 1934 01:28:46,649 --> 01:28:43,659 16 cases and they have you know recalls 1935 01:28:49,169 --> 01:28:46,659 them or slight bits of memory and you 1936 01:28:51,419 --> 01:28:49,179 have to qualify this and they want to 1937 01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:51,429 know more a lot of people don't want to 1938 01:28:54,990 --> 01:28:53,590 know more because they might be more 1939 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:55,000 upset if they knew and then if they 1940 01:29:00,830 --> 01:28:57,250 didn't but if they want to know more 1941 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:00,840 then we'll supply them with a qualified 1942 01:29:06,510 --> 01:29:04,510 hypnotherapist such as Ron Smith and the 1943 01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:06,520 western United States here in California 1944 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:09,310 was a student of Budd Hopkins that will 1945 01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:15,130 do the regressions but there is no there 1946 01:29:20,129 --> 01:29:18,100 again I'm qualified there and I've never 1947 01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:20,139 seen I've looked at thousands of cases 1948 01:29:24,589 --> 01:29:22,960 all over the world I've read but Hopkins 1949 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:24,599 liver in literature 1950 01:29:29,659 --> 01:29:27,449 David Jacobs John Max and so on there 1951 01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:29,669 are no cases in which someone has Total 1952 01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:32,639 Recall of an abduction event interesting 1953 01:29:37,279 --> 01:29:35,249 I you know I'm looking here at said 1954 01:29:38,810 --> 01:29:37,289 spooky Mulder's questions and he's kind 1955 01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:38,820 of playing a little devil's advocate 1956 01:29:42,919 --> 01:29:41,249 here but one of his question is is while 1957 01:29:44,929 --> 01:29:42,929 conceding that theoretically there could 1958 01:29:47,299 --> 01:29:44,939 be tens of thousands of people walking 1959 01:29:49,489 --> 01:29:47,309 around possibly more unaware that they 1960 01:29:52,489 --> 01:29:49,499 have implants why would the doctor have 1961 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:52,499 any patients at all would it meaning you 1962 01:29:55,909 --> 01:29:54,449 wouldn't a race as advanced as these 1963 01:29:58,759 --> 01:29:55,919 guys have perfected the art of 1964 01:30:00,589 --> 01:29:58,769 unobtrusive or unintrusive implantation 1965 01:30:02,689 --> 01:30:00,599 with the ones that come to light be 1966 01:30:04,909 --> 01:30:02,699 considered botched procedures what is 1967 01:30:06,949 --> 01:30:04,919 the average wake is there some sort of 1968 01:30:10,270 --> 01:30:06,959 out of the sixteen cases that you have 1969 01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:10,280 selected is how are these objects 1970 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:13,199 discovered by the individual is it is a 1971 01:30:18,319 --> 01:30:15,449 by happenstance do they feel 1972 01:30:20,779 --> 01:30:18,329 uncomfortable do they have a memory of 1973 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:20,789 it being implanted what is is there any 1974 01:30:27,020 --> 01:30:25,050 sort of consistency in how these things 1975 01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:27,030 are discovered let's have an answer on 1976 01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:28,320 the other side dr. 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Roger Leir our guest 2084 01:35:13,419 --> 01:35:12,290 this week will have the answer dr. Leir 2085 01:35:15,339 --> 01:35:13,429 yes sir 2086 01:35:16,689 --> 01:35:15,349 is there any consistency on how these 2087 01:35:19,540 --> 01:35:16,699 implants are discovered by the 2088 01:35:21,370 --> 01:35:19,550 individuals is it just a some object 2089 01:35:24,129 --> 01:35:21,380 that's seen in an x-ray is it all by 2090 01:35:26,770 --> 01:35:24,139 accident and by happenstance or is there 2091 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:26,780 some sort of recall that the person has 2092 01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:29,330 that gives them the idea that perhaps or 2093 01:35:31,359 --> 01:35:30,320 something there that should be 2094 01:35:33,879 --> 01:35:31,369 investigated 2095 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:33,889 is there any consistency with these with 2096 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:36,170 these cases let me answer that in two 2097 01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:39,770 ways because the question from the 2098 01:35:47,890 --> 01:35:44,000 caller I had two parts to it so number 2099 01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:47,900 one yes all the above now as a medical 2100 01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:51,230 practitioner no matter what I do I still 2101 01:35:56,379 --> 01:35:54,230 have to conform to you know the ethics 2102 01:36:00,100 --> 01:35:56,389 and the laws of the state of which I 2103 01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:00,110 practice so if someone came in and said 2104 01:36:08,020 --> 01:36:04,639 I have a tack you know under my skin and 2105 01:36:10,660 --> 01:36:08,030 the big toe and I found it on an x-ray 2106 01:36:13,959 --> 01:36:10,670 and I asked them do you have any 2107 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:13,969 discomfort and I said no and I would ask 2108 01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:16,010 him well do you know how you got it yes 2109 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:18,290 I stepped on a tack does it bother you 2110 01:36:22,899 --> 01:36:20,690 in any way and they said no and I said 2111 01:36:25,450 --> 01:36:22,909 well does it bother you psychologically 2112 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:25,460 and they said no then there would not be 2113 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:28,610 who me as an ethical practitioner to 2114 01:36:34,270 --> 01:36:31,010 even suggest that I take it out so 2115 01:36:37,629 --> 01:36:34,280 that's one aspect of it the other aspect 2116 01:36:41,410 --> 01:36:37,639 is that all these individuals have 2117 01:36:43,870 --> 01:36:41,420 either some discomfort in the area 2118 01:36:46,510 --> 01:36:43,880 whether it be psychological or 2119 01:36:49,870 --> 01:36:46,520 physiological and some of them do have 2120 01:36:52,780 --> 01:36:49,880 actual memories or portions of memories 2121 01:36:56,510 --> 01:36:52,790 where they were taken and a device was 2122 01:37:00,980 --> 01:36:56,520 used to insert something and sometimes 2123 01:37:03,470 --> 01:37:00,990 I have pain or they may wake up the 2124 01:37:06,050 --> 01:37:03,480 following morning and see blood on the 2125 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:06,060 bedsheets not know where they come from 2126 01:37:10,490 --> 01:37:08,010 now we haven't mentioned the fact that 2127 01:37:13,790 --> 01:37:10,500 in any of these cases there's a scar or 2128 01:37:16,420 --> 01:37:13,800 visible portable venturi there isn't so 2129 01:37:19,580 --> 01:37:16,430 from purely from a medical standpoint 2130 01:37:21,710 --> 01:37:19,590 you you basically can't get something in 2131 01:37:23,630 --> 01:37:21,720 and of itself yeah I think there's an 2132 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:23,640 issue though that was raised and 2133 01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:25,290 implicit in the previous question from 2134 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:27,360 our listener and that is here we're 2135 01:37:31,340 --> 01:37:29,130 talking about a highly advanced race 2136 01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:31,350 that appears to be using somewhat 2137 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:34,800 low-tech means to make these implants 2138 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:36,930 you think if they have that technology 2139 01:37:40,130 --> 01:37:38,130 they could do it in the way that we 2140 01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:40,140 couldn't detect it and people wouldn't 2141 01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:43,040 remember it well let's put it this way 2142 01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:47,910 and dealing with advanced beings are 2143 01:37:55,820 --> 01:37:51,450 they the ultimate and perfection and if 2144 01:37:59,050 --> 01:37:55,830 you look at as many abduction cases as I 2145 01:38:02,180 --> 01:37:59,060 have you'll see that the answer is no 2146 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:02,190 they may be advanced but there is no 2147 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:04,170 ultimate perfection and the things that 2148 01:38:08,660 --> 01:38:04,770 they do 2149 01:38:12,260 --> 01:38:08,670 case in point to little children were 2150 01:38:15,020 --> 01:38:12,270 abducted from a Doughboy pool on the 2151 01:38:17,540 --> 01:38:15,030 state of Texas they disappeared and the 2152 01:38:19,730 --> 01:38:17,550 parents were extremely concerned call 2153 01:38:22,430 --> 01:38:19,740 the police the neighbors they did a 2154 01:38:25,460 --> 01:38:22,440 neighborhood search and found the two 2155 01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:25,470 young boys drowned in a full-sized pool 2156 01:38:30,410 --> 01:38:28,110 next door there was no way there was a 2157 01:38:33,230 --> 01:38:30,420 six-foot fence so there was no way these 2158 01:38:36,170 --> 01:38:33,240 kids got over the fence we have many 2159 01:38:39,710 --> 01:38:36,180 many cases in which bed clothing for 2160 01:38:42,230 --> 01:38:39,720 example between a husband and wife and 2161 01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:42,240 it written Lee gets switched the husband 2162 01:38:48,050 --> 01:38:44,880 winds up wearing the nightgown and the 2163 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:48,060 and the wife winds up with pajamas it 2164 01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:49,290 sounds like they have a pretty 2165 01:39:02,709 --> 01:38:57,480 progressive sexual relationship I'll let 2166 01:39:09,260 --> 01:39:06,550 devil made its Richard shavers DeRose 2167 01:39:10,879 --> 01:39:09,270 sending him there teller Grace and 2168 01:39:14,060 --> 01:39:10,889 telling him what to do 2169 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:14,070 yeah I wish they would have a better 2170 01:39:21,169 --> 01:39:17,280 closer or a relationship with him so the 2171 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:21,179 whole plane is okay Yomi another case 2172 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:23,250 that I want to mention before I got off 2173 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:26,210 this track was a an individual who was 2174 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:30,210 coming out of her house she had four 2175 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:33,290 steps leading to the backyard she was 2176 01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:36,449 removed from one of the steps in the 2177 01:39:40,850 --> 01:39:38,400 process of stepping down 2178 01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:40,860 they returned her in the opposite 2179 01:39:44,930 --> 01:39:42,510 direction well as far as she was 2180 01:39:46,430 --> 01:39:44,940 concerned she was stepping down this is 2181 01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:46,440 not funny so I don't know why I'm 2182 01:39:55,339 --> 01:39:50,489 laughing but she fell and broke her 2183 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:55,349 ankle and at a rather dim view not only 2184 01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:57,210 the abduction process but the 2185 01:40:01,339 --> 01:39:58,560 individuals that did it 2186 01:40:03,939 --> 01:40:01,349 so they're not they're not perfect and 2187 01:40:06,770 --> 01:40:03,949 as far as the mechanism is concerned 2188 01:40:11,290 --> 01:40:06,780 looking at these as primitive mechanisms 2189 01:40:14,899 --> 01:40:11,300 the person asking that or proposing that 2190 01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:14,909 doesn't really know what's inside these 2191 01:40:22,010 --> 01:40:17,940 objects these are manufactured highly 2192 01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:22,020 technical devices based on the atomic 2193 01:40:27,709 --> 01:40:24,690 level in fact we found an aperture in 2194 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:27,719 the middle this just recently which is 2195 01:40:32,899 --> 01:40:30,449 one atom wide yet we couldn't see the 2196 01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:32,909 bottom of the aperture no I think the 2197 01:40:38,089 --> 01:40:35,310 point raised here was not that the 2198 01:40:39,790 --> 01:40:38,099 implants themselves were primitive but 2199 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:39,800 the techniques in which they were placed 2200 01:40:45,050 --> 01:40:43,290 was primitive and I still think an 2201 01:40:47,660 --> 01:40:45,060 advanced race would have a way number 2202 01:40:49,550 --> 01:40:47,670 one of implanting them without causing 2203 01:40:52,580 --> 01:40:49,560 serious injury or hurt I mean we've 2204 01:40:55,069 --> 01:40:52,590 gotten our FD chip in our pet dog and I 2205 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:55,079 sure when it was implanted the dog was 2206 01:41:00,560 --> 01:40:57,570 not very aware of it yeah you get a shot 2207 01:41:03,950 --> 01:41:00,570 they put the little thing in but there's 2208 01:41:06,319 --> 01:41:03,960 no cases in which there's imperfection 2209 01:41:08,780 --> 01:41:06,329 and the implantation as I said there's 2210 01:41:10,580 --> 01:41:08,790 no scar so how would you know you got 2211 01:41:12,260 --> 01:41:10,590 anything in there well certainly the 2212 01:41:15,740 --> 01:41:12,270 memory of the experiences if all you 2213 01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:15,750 want to do is take samples and all you 2214 01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,000 do is make genetic manipulation or just 2215 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:20,400 use our FV chips of some sort to monitor 2216 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:23,010 them but that can be done in a way that 2217 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:26,850 wouldn't be apparent to the human nature 2218 01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:31,650 is human nature and gene you know that 2219 01:41:38,570 --> 01:41:34,290 we are not all the same you know we have 2220 01:41:41,150 --> 01:41:38,580 a wide variety of of individual thought 2221 01:41:42,410 --> 01:41:41,160 processes or something being more acute 2222 01:41:45,220 --> 01:41:42,420 than others something that better 2223 01:41:48,740 --> 01:41:45,230 memories you know we have folks that 2224 01:41:50,810 --> 01:41:48,750 have natural photographic memories so 2225 01:41:52,820 --> 01:41:50,820 that memories are different now if 2226 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:52,830 you're going to let's let's say you were 2227 01:41:57,290 --> 01:41:53,610 the doer 2228 01:41:59,840 --> 01:41:57,300 you know you sometimes yeah problems 2229 01:42:02,570 --> 01:41:59,850 because it was mentioned before that you 2230 01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:02,580 have to use sometimes screen memories in 2231 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:05,490 order to obliterate the process and they 2232 01:42:13,460 --> 01:42:09,570 do they do that but as far as the doing 2233 01:42:16,850 --> 01:42:13,470 this in mass you know how there is no 2234 01:42:19,700 --> 01:42:16,860 guarantee that either the result or the 2235 01:42:21,650 --> 01:42:19,710 process is going to be the same in every 2236 01:42:23,210 --> 01:42:21,660 human and that way you know of averages 2237 01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:23,220 something something's gonna mess up 2238 01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:24,810 somewhere so I'm sure that's what I'm 2239 01:42:30,260 --> 01:42:27,090 saying so just because they may be an 2240 01:42:32,930 --> 01:42:30,270 advanced race you know a church state 2241 01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:32,940 that takes a certain number of time to 2242 01:42:37,670 --> 01:42:34,770 abduct a certain number of human 2243 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,680 individuals in clause change and again 2244 01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,080 we don't have the time but I can take 2245 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:42,960 you back to a biblical literature where 2246 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:45,330 this could have been the case and there 2247 01:42:50,420 --> 01:42:48,330 you know there's no timeline and in all 2248 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:50,430 the ancient literature doesn't say what 2249 01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:53,010 is one day one hour or one minute or a 2250 01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:56,400 thousand years but what it appears 2251 01:43:01,310 --> 01:42:58,530 that's being done is that they're trying 2252 01:43:02,780 --> 01:43:01,320 to do this as rapidly as possible now I 2253 01:43:05,420 --> 01:43:02,790 don't think we're dealing with a much 2254 01:43:09,620 --> 01:43:05,430 altruist here I think the stuff that 2255 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:09,630 we're doing as human beings although and 2256 01:43:15,310 --> 01:43:11,970 it does have an effect here what we do I 2257 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:15,320 think it has a reverberation effect 2258 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:18,810 elsewhere so therefore the human race 2259 01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:23,090 itself may becoming quite dangerous to 2260 01:43:27,890 --> 01:43:25,890 you know that the solar system part of 2261 01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:27,900 the oil universe and not to mention 2262 01:43:36,890 --> 01:43:29,340 ourselves 2263 01:43:39,490 --> 01:43:36,900 notice any consistency in actual 2264 01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:39,500 placement and have you been able to 2265 01:43:45,740 --> 01:43:43,110 determine possible usage or end and 2266 01:43:50,359 --> 01:43:45,750 usage based on where the actual implant 2267 01:43:53,089 --> 01:43:50,369 is found looks like and looking for you 2268 01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:53,099 know several years ago I couldn't have 2269 01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:55,040 answered this but I can answer it now 2270 01:43:59,600 --> 01:43:58,170 most of these objects are located in a 2271 01:44:03,200 --> 01:43:59,610 place where they're fairly superficial 2272 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:03,210 and near a bone we've never found one in 2273 01:44:09,500 --> 01:44:06,090 the abdominal cavity and the thorax or 2274 01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:09,510 within the confines of the cranium we've 2275 01:44:15,020 --> 01:44:13,020 had many many many many abductee reports 2276 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:15,030 of objects being put in through the nose 2277 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:17,610 but yet I've never been able to hold one 2278 01:44:23,419 --> 01:44:20,010 in my hand because then mostly all the 2279 01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,429 instances they've been expelled either 2280 01:44:32,270 --> 01:44:26,159 through a bloody nose or mucous 2281 01:44:35,060 --> 01:44:32,280 discharge and the climate way no I don't 2282 01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,070 know all we hear is the stories and some 2283 01:44:40,250 --> 01:44:37,199 very specific how this instrument is 2284 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:40,260 used to place it up through the nose and 2285 01:44:46,570 --> 01:44:43,530 they hear a cracking sound etc but when 2286 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:46,580 I was in Italy several years ago I 2287 01:44:51,919 --> 01:44:50,690 attended a lecture by some 2288 01:44:55,149 --> 01:44:51,929 neurophysiologists who were 2289 01:44:58,010 --> 01:44:55,159 experimenting around on our level with 2290 01:45:02,270 --> 01:44:58,020 behavior of violent prisoners and they 2291 01:45:04,250 --> 01:45:02,280 actually manufactured a chip that could 2292 01:45:06,649 --> 01:45:04,260 be placed at the base of the brain and 2293 01:45:09,890 --> 01:45:06,659 then controlled externally and reduce 2294 01:45:14,930 --> 01:45:09,900 their violent behavior to something that 2295 01:45:16,879 --> 01:45:14,940 was much more mediated Delgado I'll tell 2296 01:45:18,890 --> 01:45:16,889 you what before we mediate this we have 2297 01:45:21,260 --> 01:45:18,900 something else to mediate we have dr. 2298 01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:21,270 Roger Leir joining gene and Chris we're 2299 01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:29,890 America's number one source for 2300 01:45:38,630 --> 01:45:33,300 independent talk radio for over a decade 2301 01:45:40,340 --> 01:45:38,640 we are the gcn radio network hi this is 2302 01:45:42,590 --> 01:45:40,350 Ted Anderson if you'd like to listen to 2303 01:45:45,229 --> 01:45:42,600 GCN programs on the goal I have great 2304 01:45:47,450 --> 01:45:45,239 news gzn has created a Droid and iPhone 2305 01:45:49,760 --> 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2319 01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:15,510 bank having a led back at interest 2320 01:46:19,130 --> 01:46:17,280 forcing taxes to surface debt this 2321 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:19,140 capitalism was Jefferson correct when 2322 01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:20,610 stating a central bank issuing the 2323 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:22,260 public currency is a greater menace to 2324 01:46:24,740 --> 01:46:23,370 the liberties of the people than a 2325 01:46:26,150 --> 01:46:24,750 standing army today understand I'm 2326 01:46:28,010 --> 01:46:26,160 placing a free silver dollar in a book 2327 01:46:31,459 --> 01:46:28,020 that explains our monetary system call 2328 01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:31,469 for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time 2329 01:46:38,530 --> 01:46:34,650 to understand the system call 866 to 237 2330 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:38,540 that's 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7 2331 01:46:42,430 --> 01:46:40,610 do you suffer from low functioning 2332 01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:42,440 adrenal or thyroid gland did you know 2333 01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:44,000 that mercury from your dental fillings 2334 01:46:47,860 --> 01:46:46,070 comes off your teeth both as a vapor and 2335 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:47,870 as metal particles into your body 2336 01:46:51,370 --> 01:46:49,610 wherever mercury deposits in your body 2337 01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:51,380 it stops cells from functioning normally 2338 01:46:56,230 --> 01:46:53,360 animal studies show that mercury causes 2339 01:46:58,210 --> 01:46:56,240 kidney function to drop by 60% mercury 2340 01:46:59,560 --> 01:46:58,220 deposited into your adrenals are thyroid 2341 01:47:01,210 --> 01:46:59,570 will cause a corresponding drop in 2342 01:47:03,190 --> 01:47:01,220 function the number-one method by which 2343 01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:03,200 your body detoxifies itself of mercury 2344 01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:04,880 is Buddha phylum the number one 2345 01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:07,190 superfood that helps turn on all 75 2346 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:09,110 trillion cells of your body to produce 2347 01:47:13,570 --> 01:47:11,330 glutathione is non denatured whey 2348 01:47:15,820 --> 01:47:13,580 protein from grass-fed cows after 2349 01:47:17,980 --> 01:47:15,830 investigating most high-end whey 2350 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,990 proteins on the market only 1 is the 2351 01:47:21,790 --> 01:47:20,000 most non denature the most active the 2352 01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:21,800 most complete and in our opinion the 2353 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:24,080 most powerful in what nature originally 2354 01:47:29,170 --> 01:47:27,050 put into the fresh long way it is one 2355 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:29,180 world way call eight eight eight nine 2356 01:47:32,740 --> 01:47:31,010 eight eight three three to five that's 2357 01:47:35,950 --> 01:47:32,750 eight eight eight nine eight eight three 2358 01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:35,960 three to five or visit one world wacom 2359 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:48,890 welcome back to the para cast the gold 2360 01:48:01,760 --> 01:47:53,210 standard of paranormal radio and now 2361 01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:01,770 here's Jane Steinberg exploring the 2362 01:48:06,410 --> 01:48:04,080 strange phenomenon of alien implants 2363 01:48:09,500 --> 01:48:06,420 with dr. Roger Leir with Jane and Chris 2364 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:09,510 on the podcast I guess to some degree if 2365 01:48:14,270 --> 01:48:11,970 the implants themselves didn't possibly 2366 01:48:17,140 --> 01:48:14,280 represent a really advanced technology I 2367 01:48:19,340 --> 01:48:17,150 would wonder if to some extent 2368 01:48:20,210 --> 01:48:19,350 governments were doing this to keep tabs 2369 01:48:22,430 --> 01:48:20,220 on their people 2370 01:48:25,580 --> 01:48:22,440 well the low tech fashion in which 2371 01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:25,590 they're administered it might be one 2372 01:48:31,850 --> 01:48:28,170 reason I don't see what you're calling a 2373 01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:31,860 low tech Nick that technique to me is 2374 01:48:38,030 --> 01:48:34,530 advanced technology for being can 2375 01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:38,040 disassociate your skin subcutaneous 2376 01:48:45,980 --> 01:48:42,930 tissue muscle and periosteum and place a 2377 01:48:49,220 --> 01:48:45,990 foreign object within your body and then 2378 01:48:51,890 --> 01:48:49,230 have it heal where there's no sign of a 2379 01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:51,900 defect or rejection no infection no 2380 01:48:57,050 --> 01:48:54,290 infection - no rejection and no 2381 01:48:58,100 --> 01:48:57,060 inflammatory reaction but it's visible 2382 01:49:00,920 --> 01:48:58,110 if you know where to look 2383 01:49:03,230 --> 01:49:00,930 no it wouldn't be visible unless you use 2384 01:49:05,810 --> 01:49:03,240 a more official age okay but obviously 2385 01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:05,820 you are recovering some so therefore in 2386 01:49:10,850 --> 01:49:08,310 some cases well I guess if you're doing 2387 01:49:12,110 --> 01:49:10,860 this in mass and you're doing you know a 2388 01:49:14,540 --> 01:49:12,120 couple hundred thousand at a time I 2389 01:49:17,390 --> 01:49:14,550 guess some will just not take that's the 2390 01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:17,400 point you make that scre echt as I said 2391 01:49:24,170 --> 01:49:21,090 they are far from you know perfection 2392 01:49:26,330 --> 01:49:24,180 these are not gods or they mean I care 2393 01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:26,340 it may be a matter of they consider us 2394 01:49:32,330 --> 01:49:29,250 you know low-grade beings primitive 2395 01:49:34,850 --> 01:49:32,340 beings and therefore why should we care 2396 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:34,860 how they react to what we do we'll just 2397 01:49:41,180 --> 01:49:38,850 do it the expedient way I agree with the 2398 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:41,190 second part that I don't think they 2399 01:49:46,250 --> 01:49:42,930 consider as low-grade beings but 2400 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:46,260 certainly lesser younger beings now if 2401 01:49:50,660 --> 01:49:48,330 we were going to do the same thing 2402 01:49:53,780 --> 01:49:50,670 analogy has been used many times if you 2403 01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:53,790 grab a fish let's say a silicon which is 2404 01:49:57,980 --> 01:49:56,250 your kind of rare and you decide you 2405 01:50:00,050 --> 01:49:57,990 want to know the habits of the silicon 2406 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:00,060 and you bring them out of the water are 2407 01:50:03,740 --> 01:50:02,010 you going to explain to the silicon that 2408 01:50:06,380 --> 01:50:03,750 I'm putting this little probe on the 2409 01:50:10,370 --> 01:50:06,390 back of you so I can uh I can track you 2410 01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:10,380 you know from Africa to India to you 2411 01:50:14,900 --> 01:50:12,570 know some ocean and see how you breed 2412 01:50:17,390 --> 01:50:14,910 and so on I don't think so because they 2413 01:50:19,790 --> 01:50:17,400 we can sit in the fish you know a lower 2414 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:19,800 farm being we would have a conference 2415 01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:22,410 with them go to the fish council and say 2416 01:50:28,940 --> 01:50:25,650 can we do this sir yes we go to the 2417 01:50:32,140 --> 01:50:28,950 Galactic fish Council and make a 2418 01:50:36,710 --> 01:50:32,150 proposal that we go to this planet and 2419 01:50:38,810 --> 01:50:36,720 do everything to their fish okay any 2420 01:50:41,210 --> 01:50:38,820 theories about the endgame so for 2421 01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:41,220 example why would they be doing this 2422 01:50:44,930 --> 01:50:42,960 just to see what we're doing do you 2423 01:50:48,020 --> 01:50:44,940 really believe its genetic manipulation 2424 01:50:51,370 --> 01:50:48,030 yes I was going to suggest before when 2425 01:50:56,030 --> 01:50:51,380 we were on the subject of a theoretical 2426 01:50:59,870 --> 01:50:56,040 the theoretical motives let's say that 2427 01:51:02,630 --> 01:50:59,880 are logical you really you get down to 2428 01:51:03,770 --> 01:51:02,640 only two possibilities now if you're a 2429 01:51:06,860 --> 01:51:03,780 devout theist 2430 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:06,870 then you're well within your realm to 2431 01:51:13,910 --> 01:51:10,410 say this is an act of God and no one can 2432 01:51:15,830 --> 01:51:13,920 argue with it that is of course if you 2433 01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:15,840 assume that God doesn't mind inflicting 2434 01:51:21,770 --> 01:51:19,530 pain and discomfort on you well for for 2435 01:51:25,130 --> 01:51:21,780 every religious right there is always a 2436 01:51:27,050 --> 01:51:25,140 reason that if God is punishing you one 2437 01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:27,060 day is teaching you a lesson so he will 2438 01:51:30,620 --> 01:51:29,040 be a better person the next day so if 2439 01:51:32,570 --> 01:51:30,630 we're abducted or we think we're being 2440 01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:32,580 abducted and someone gets in there and 2441 01:51:37,130 --> 01:51:34,610 does genetic manipulation or takes 2442 01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:37,140 samples from our reproductive organs 2443 01:51:42,170 --> 01:51:39,450 we're just you know guys suck it up 2444 01:51:45,020 --> 01:51:42,180 because it's trust trust is a fragile 2445 01:51:50,530 --> 01:51:45,030 thing gene yeah makes a lot of trust 2446 01:51:53,530 --> 01:51:50,540 I'll tell you you a very large number of 2447 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:53,540 individuals that have said oh yes 2448 01:51:59,780 --> 01:51:56,010 abduction is a wonderful thing because 2449 01:52:00,919 --> 01:51:59,790 you know my soul made a deal before I 2450 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:00,929 was born 2451 01:52:06,930 --> 01:52:03,730 so there are so many feel that you're 2452 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:06,940 gonna be onna sounds like dr. Leir has 2453 01:52:11,700 --> 01:52:09,010 spent some time in in my neck of the 2454 01:52:13,919 --> 01:52:11,710 woods your Sedona well I have been in 2455 01:52:15,780 --> 01:52:13,929 Sedona I've affected had quite an 2456 01:52:21,209 --> 01:52:15,790 experience they're sitting and they're 2457 01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:21,219 one of those vortexes I got a thought in 2458 01:52:25,649 --> 01:52:23,320 my mind of an individual who I hadn't 2459 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:25,659 seen in a number of years she just you 2460 01:52:30,089 --> 01:52:27,610 know popped into my mind and I just you 2461 01:52:32,399 --> 01:52:30,099 know visualized her and I got home 2462 01:52:35,850 --> 01:52:32,409 several days later I got a telephone 2463 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:35,860 call from this various individual and 2464 01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:37,690 she said you know I haven't talked to 2465 01:52:43,229 --> 01:52:40,480 you on about five years but suddenly I 2466 01:52:44,910 --> 01:52:43,239 had you know you came into my mind and 2467 01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:44,920 so I had to give you a call 2468 01:52:51,060 --> 01:52:47,110 and I said well when did this happen 2469 01:52:53,010 --> 01:52:51,070 well strangely enough she's a hiker and 2470 01:52:55,919 --> 01:52:53,020 she was sitting up on the top of a 2471 01:52:57,689 --> 01:52:55,929 mountain on the Scylla Sierras and I 2472 01:53:01,169 --> 01:52:57,699 said well when did this happen it was 2473 01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:01,179 the same day at the same time so a good 2474 01:53:04,319 --> 01:53:02,710 number of stories like that from around 2475 01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:04,329 here it's pretty interesting place 2476 01:53:13,049 --> 01:53:09,489 believe me well I you know this is all 2477 01:53:16,109 --> 01:53:13,059 really a fascinating subject and I'm 2478 01:53:17,370 --> 01:53:16,119 really intrigued by the results that the 2479 01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:17,380 scientific results that you were 2480 01:53:20,609 --> 01:53:19,119 referring to earlier on and in the 2481 01:53:24,140 --> 01:53:20,619 episode here now 2482 01:53:26,370 --> 01:53:24,150 have you decided or made any attempts to 2483 01:53:28,649 --> 01:53:26,380 go to other labs and do like a 2484 01:53:31,140 --> 01:53:28,659 double-blind study where you can 2485 01:53:33,780 --> 01:53:31,150 replicate the kinds of analytical 2486 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:33,790 results have this sounds like you you 2487 01:53:38,250 --> 01:53:35,650 could almost do a scientific paper if 2488 01:53:40,979 --> 01:53:38,260 you were able to replicate the same the 2489 01:53:42,979 --> 01:53:40,989 same we have and we've been trying to 2490 01:53:46,859 --> 01:53:42,989 get a peer-reviewed scientific paper 2491 01:53:50,689 --> 01:53:46,869 published now for about four or five 2492 01:53:53,580 --> 01:53:50,699 years we vet something into the SSE and 2493 01:53:55,470 --> 01:53:53,590 they make excuses they don't say yes 2494 01:53:58,649 --> 01:53:55,480 they don't say no but they don't publish 2495 01:54:00,600 --> 01:53:58,659 I'm working with another scientific 2496 01:54:02,510 --> 01:54:00,610 journal or a foreign country now in 2497 01:54:06,510 --> 01:54:02,520 collaboration with a tenured professor 2498 01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:06,520 who is doing something different but 2499 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:08,320 along the same lines we're trying to get 2500 01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:10,570 a joint article written in a foreign 2501 01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:11,580 journal 2502 01:54:21,090 --> 01:54:16,630 also you may not know this but I found 2503 01:54:24,330 --> 01:54:21,100 out six months ago that I am the subject 2504 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:24,340 of an OSTP report and the white house 2505 01:54:28,590 --> 01:54:27,970 are you familiar with the OSTP no I'm 2506 01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:28,600 not 2507 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:30,790 once it's out it's a White House 2508 01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:32,890 organization which is the Office of 2509 01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:36,670 Science and Technology Policy and this 2510 01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:39,280 was written when President Obama was 2511 01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:41,800 trying to get money for his health care 2512 01:54:47,790 --> 01:54:44,850 bill in which he wanted a public option 2513 01:54:51,420 --> 01:54:47,800 someone had heard me talk at the 2514 01:54:54,450 --> 01:54:51,430 National Press Club in Washington DC and 2515 01:54:59,310 --> 01:54:54,460 they happened to be on the OSTP 2516 01:55:01,260 --> 01:54:59,320 committee and wrote a white paper on my 2517 01:55:04,050 --> 01:55:01,270 work and presented it to the president 2518 01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:04,060 and I have a copy of that the essence of 2519 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:06,370 the article was also I just just 2520 01:55:11,790 --> 01:55:09,250 recently found out readin and The 2521 01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:11,800 Huffington Post and The Examiner 2522 01:55:17,490 --> 01:55:15,040 so the Huffington Post now within the 2523 01:55:19,980 --> 01:55:17,500 next two week next two weeks is coming 2524 01:55:22,110 --> 01:55:19,990 out with a new article and what was 2525 01:55:25,260 --> 01:55:22,120 going on was that the president was 2526 01:55:27,540 --> 01:55:25,270 being chided because he was offered two 2527 01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:27,550 possibilities one that the work we were 2528 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:29,650 doing shows that there is an 2529 01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:31,930 extraterrestrial technology that if 2530 01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:33,550 money was poured into what it was 2531 01:55:38,340 --> 01:55:36,250 research he could wind up saving the 2532 01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:38,350 medical care program millions and 2533 01:55:41,550 --> 01:55:40,000 millions and millions of dollars for 2534 01:55:44,490 --> 01:55:41,560 benefits for mankind 2535 01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:44,500 and the other suggestion was that if dr. 2536 01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:47,520 Leir is wrong and this is some secret 2537 01:55:52,770 --> 01:55:49,900 technology that has not been exposed to 2538 01:55:55,110 --> 01:55:52,780 the public the medical benefits should 2539 01:55:57,930 --> 01:55:55,120 also be released for the benefit of the 2540 01:56:00,150 --> 01:55:57,940 public and the savings of money so it 2541 01:56:02,130 --> 01:56:00,160 was it was quite a paper but the new 2542 01:56:05,130 --> 01:56:02,140 article will be coming out and the 2543 01:56:09,690 --> 01:56:05,140 huffington post will will cover all this 2544 01:56:12,210 --> 01:56:09,700 so stay tuned folks we'll watch for it 2545 01:56:14,430 --> 01:56:12,220 in general what's the skeptical 2546 01:56:20,340 --> 01:56:14,440 viewpoint of what you have to say about 2547 01:56:22,630 --> 01:56:20,350 the implants what did they say I've been 2548 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:22,640 with them all from 2549 01:56:29,020 --> 01:56:25,130 Smyly to the rest of them unfortunately 2550 01:56:31,330 --> 01:56:29,030 one of them passed away but I had one I 2551 01:56:33,460 --> 01:56:31,340 had two encounters with American 2552 01:56:37,930 --> 01:56:33,470 skeptical society one was a television 2553 01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:37,940 show I did with Kevin Nealon who was it 2554 01:56:42,610 --> 01:56:40,400 was a marvelous comedian on the spot 2555 01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:42,620 comedian but we had a roundtable 2556 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:44,450 discussion he was interested in this 2557 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:47,570 subject naturally made lots of jokes but 2558 01:56:53,620 --> 01:56:50,450 sitting next to me was a representative 2559 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:53,630 of the California Division of the 2560 01:56:58,060 --> 01:56:55,490 American skeptical Society 2561 01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:58,070 she was relatively new and she had a 2562 01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:00,320 briefcase and she sat down next to me 2563 01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:04,370 and said what's your claim to fame and I 2564 01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:07,130 said well I guess you're talking about 2565 01:57:15,130 --> 01:57:10,310 why I'm here and that has to do with the 2566 01:57:19,090 --> 01:57:15,140 implantation of objects in the bodies of 2567 01:57:21,370 --> 01:57:19,100 alien about implants implants yes yes 2568 01:57:23,410 --> 01:57:21,380 yes yes we got to do the break now then 2569 01:57:25,540 --> 01:57:23,420 you can finish that remark about the 2570 01:57:27,610 --> 01:57:25,550 round table with the skeptics dr. 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hear from you if you have a 2669 02:01:48,330 --> 02:01:44,380 comment or question about the para cast 2670 02:01:51,660 --> 02:01:48,340 sent it to news at the para cast com 2671 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:51,670 that's news at the para cast calm and 2672 02:01:56,940 --> 02:01:53,770 don't forget to visit our famous para 2673 02:02:01,290 --> 02:01:56,950 cast community forums at forum dot the 2674 02:02:04,460 --> 02:02:01,300 para cast calm this is one of our most 2675 02:02:06,570 --> 02:02:04,470 fascinating episodes exploring some 2676 02:02:08,670 --> 02:02:06,580 unusual very frightening things have 2677 02:02:10,980 --> 02:02:08,680 happened to people with the so called 2678 02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:10,990 implants and these experiences so you're 2679 02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:13,690 on this roundtable dr. Roger Leir with 2680 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:16,000 these skeptics and of course you 2681 02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:17,770 mentioned what you're doing and they 2682 02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:19,900 laugh but what is their argument against 2683 02:02:26,940 --> 02:02:21,340 what you have to say what you have to 2684 02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:26,950 put looking from the skeptical society 2685 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:30,400 reaches into her briefcase and she pulls 2686 02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:32,890 out this rather thick black binder oh 2687 02:02:36,180 --> 02:02:33,970 boy 2688 02:02:39,690 --> 02:02:36,190 is that like the binders filled with 2689 02:02:41,370 --> 02:02:39,700 women that Romney was displaying during 2690 02:02:44,490 --> 02:02:41,380 the presidential campaign those are 2691 02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:44,500 blinders not binders regular old you 2692 02:02:49,410 --> 02:02:47,440 know three-ring very thick black binder 2693 02:02:53,100 --> 02:02:49,420 and so she pulls this thing out and 2694 02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:53,110 since I sitting quite close to her I'm 2695 02:02:58,800 --> 02:02:56,170 looking over her shoulder I bet you are 2696 02:03:01,650 --> 02:02:58,810 hopefu sit up to the table of contents 2697 02:03:03,570 --> 02:03:01,660 and then whether finger runs down 2698 02:03:08,270 --> 02:03:03,580 alphabetically until she gets to the 2699 02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:08,280 subject of implants right boiler plated 2700 02:03:12,140 --> 02:03:10,510 sponsor this question I got a look at my 2701 02:03:15,990 --> 02:03:12,150 script hold on just a minute 2702 02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:16,000 so what was her response so I said to 2703 02:03:20,820 --> 02:03:17,920 her I said you seem to have something on 2704 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:20,830 every subject in the paranormal and she 2705 02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:22,570 says oh yes we do well she was very 2706 02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:25,270 friendly and she was new she invited me 2707 02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:26,650 to their office on Wilshire Boulevard 2708 02:03:33,450 --> 02:03:31,300 but unfortunately when I actually called 2709 02:03:35,660 --> 02:03:33,460 her and I was gonna go over there she an 2710 02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:35,670 already have been moved out of state 2711 02:03:40,620 --> 02:03:38,590 someplace else so never got the 2712 02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:40,630 opportunity my other experience with 2713 02:03:46,380 --> 02:03:43,540 them was I gave a lecture to the Marina 2714 02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:46,390 del Rey yacht club out here and Marin 2715 02:03:52,020 --> 02:03:49,810 El Rey I was ranged by Bill burns from 2716 02:03:54,690 --> 02:03:52,030 you know the History Channel UFO 2717 02:03:57,420 --> 02:03:54,700 magazine and I was about 3/4 of the way 2718 02:04:00,000 --> 02:03:57,430 through my presentation it went a fella 2719 02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:00,010 raised his hand I acknowledge them and 2720 02:04:04,020 --> 02:04:01,570 he says have you ever given any of this 2721 02:04:07,940 --> 02:04:04,030 material to the American skeptical 2722 02:04:10,620 --> 02:04:07,950 Society and I like the way you say that 2723 02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:10,630 you have a career in show business if 2724 02:04:21,660 --> 02:04:17,560 you do those impressions I think and I 2725 02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:21,670 said because you guys I said you guys 2726 02:04:37,530 --> 02:04:34,990 are all psychics psychics etcetera 2727 02:04:40,020 --> 02:04:37,540 etcetera it was the only of screaming it 2728 02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:40,030 man and I said well I don't know what 2729 02:04:44,340 --> 02:04:42,670 else to say I said because you seem to 2730 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:44,350 know everything that's going on but you 2731 02:04:48,900 --> 02:04:46,330 never look at any of the damn data and 2732 02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:48,910 with that the crowd started roaring and 2733 02:04:54,690 --> 02:04:50,650 he turned red got up left 2734 02:04:57,420 --> 02:04:54,700 so that was my two experiences when the 2735 02:05:00,180 --> 02:04:57,430 poor fellow forgotten his name that 2736 02:05:01,620 --> 02:05:00,190 passed away the real famous psychic that 2737 02:05:03,810 --> 02:05:01,630 attacked everybody 2738 02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:03,820 what was his name psychic herb Phil 2739 02:05:09,030 --> 02:05:06,970 class Phil class after class he attacked 2740 02:05:10,650 --> 02:05:09,040 the psychics yes yeah he attacked 2741 02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:10,660 psychics and everything else but anyway 2742 02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:14,530 I had many many occasions where we did 2743 02:05:21,810 --> 02:05:19,510 press conferences with them as part of 2744 02:05:24,510 --> 02:05:21,820 the group and so on and he was sitting 2745 02:05:27,090 --> 02:05:24,520 in the front row and he went and asked 2746 02:05:29,460 --> 02:05:27,100 all these speakers questions but never 2747 02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:29,470 asked me anything and we did that 2748 02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:33,130 several times finally one day I just saw 2749 02:05:37,410 --> 02:05:35,350 I'm having lunch and I kind of felt 2750 02:05:40,770 --> 02:05:37,420 sorry for him because he was Lee was 2751 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:40,780 older and he was in poor health and he 2752 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:43,450 knew so I said Phil can I have a cup of 2753 02:05:47,070 --> 02:05:45,490 coffee with he said sure I said well how 2754 02:05:49,590 --> 02:05:47,080 you feeling we had a discussion about 2755 02:05:52,140 --> 02:05:49,600 itself but he never one single time 2756 02:05:54,510 --> 02:05:52,150 asked me a question about the work that 2757 02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:54,520 I was doing well then that's interesting 2758 02:05:58,650 --> 02:05:56,890 because boy he used the he would jump 2759 02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:58,660 all over pretty much anyone or anyone 2760 02:06:01,770 --> 02:05:59,920 anything in the 2761 02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:01,780 field yeah that's that's very 2762 02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:04,210 interesting well you know you've been 2763 02:06:11,370 --> 02:06:07,440 involved dr. Leir and quite a number of 2764 02:06:14,370 --> 02:06:11,380 case investigations and I recall editing 2765 02:06:16,919 --> 02:06:14,380 a very intriguing interview that you did 2766 02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:16,929 along with a guy that had a pair of 2767 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:19,090 sunglasses and a bandana and a hat 2768 02:06:23,790 --> 02:06:21,850 pulled down over his head concerning a 2769 02:06:26,700 --> 02:06:23,800 particular case I believe it was in 2770 02:06:28,530 --> 02:06:26,710 California where you know strange 2771 02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:28,540 fluorescent material was left behind on 2772 02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:31,360 a boat and I believe this person was 2773 02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:33,010 actually one of your material scientists 2774 02:06:37,410 --> 02:06:34,510 wasn't he or somebody was doing some of 2775 02:06:39,959 --> 02:06:37,420 your analytical work if I recall well he 2776 02:06:43,530 --> 02:06:39,969 was then he was somebody that happened 2777 02:06:45,570 --> 02:06:43,540 to be an abductee who came to me under 2778 02:06:47,250 --> 02:06:45,580 false pretenses and I should have thrown 2779 02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:47,260 his butt out of the office but I'm glad 2780 02:06:52,140 --> 02:06:49,570 I didn't and he came in as a foot 2781 02:06:54,209 --> 02:06:52,150 patient and said that he thought he had 2782 02:06:57,150 --> 02:06:54,219 a foreign object in the toe and was 2783 02:06:59,790 --> 02:06:57,160 having a lot of pain so I didn't see any 2784 02:07:01,620 --> 02:06:59,800 evidence of any marks or anything and I 2785 02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:01,630 said well what makes you think you have 2786 02:07:06,180 --> 02:07:03,760 a foreign object in your toe and he said 2787 02:07:07,979 --> 02:07:06,190 well I must have stepped on something 2788 02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:07,989 because I woke up the following morning 2789 02:07:12,330 --> 02:07:10,000 and there was some blood on my blood 2790 02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:12,340 sheets and that was blood on the toe so 2791 02:07:17,130 --> 02:07:15,310 I said hi palpated the toe with my 2792 02:07:20,030 --> 02:07:17,140 finger and when I would touch a certain 2793 02:07:22,410 --> 02:07:20,040 place he would wince in pain so I 2794 02:07:24,479 --> 02:07:22,420 assumed he was telling the truth 2795 02:07:27,330 --> 02:07:24,489 so I said well I think we should get an 2796 02:07:29,970 --> 02:07:27,340 x-ray taken so I wrote a script and he 2797 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:29,980 went out got an x-ray taken brought me 2798 02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:33,610 back the film and showed a metallic 2799 02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:36,880 foreign body and the toe and it was at 2800 02:07:40,590 --> 02:07:39,040 that time he told me he says well I 2801 02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:40,600 didn't tell you the truth he says I 2802 02:07:46,740 --> 02:07:43,360 looked you up on the on the internet I 2803 02:07:49,020 --> 02:07:46,750 know who you are and I work in a 2804 02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:49,030 scientific laboratory not too far from 2805 02:07:55,220 --> 02:07:53,199 here so I thought I would take a chance 2806 02:07:57,689 --> 02:07:55,230 to come in but I didn't want to tell you 2807 02:07:59,610 --> 02:07:57,699 you know the abduction story because I 2808 02:08:02,490 --> 02:07:59,620 thought you might think I was crazy and 2809 02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:02,500 not take me as a patient so yeah he did 2810 02:08:07,740 --> 02:08:05,250 have some scientific background but he 2811 02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:07,750 he was masked and his voice was 2812 02:08:12,330 --> 02:08:10,090 disguised on this show because he didn't 2813 02:08:16,650 --> 02:08:12,340 want anybody to at war 2814 02:08:18,630 --> 02:08:16,660 to see who it was then for fear loose 2815 02:08:20,940 --> 02:08:18,640 losing his job because believe me 2816 02:08:24,660 --> 02:08:20,950 whether they're scientists or bankers or 2817 02:08:27,020 --> 02:08:24,670 or politicians they unfortunately have 2818 02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:27,030 to pray to higher masters so I 2819 02:08:31,590 --> 02:08:29,170 understand that situation you know I 2820 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:31,600 still got to feed their families was a 2821 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:33,370 very intriguing case I remember 2822 02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:35,530 listening to some of the details of the 2823 02:08:43,140 --> 02:08:38,470 case and there was physical evidence of 2824 02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:43,150 the actual encounter just in case 2825 02:08:48,830 --> 02:08:45,730 replete with physical evidence we went 2826 02:08:52,370 --> 02:08:48,840 to his house brought a team with me we 2827 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:52,380 used a Gauss meter we found magnetic 2828 02:08:59,370 --> 02:08:55,690 anomalies not only have a bedroom where 2829 02:09:02,880 --> 02:08:59,380 he said these events occurred but we 2830 02:09:04,830 --> 02:09:02,890 used three frequencies of ultraviolet 2831 02:09:08,460 --> 02:09:04,840 light we shut all the lights off in the 2832 02:09:10,620 --> 02:09:08,470 bedroom when we found two four fingered 2833 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:10,630 small fluorescent handprints on the wall 2834 02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:13,930 right near the area where the magnetism 2835 02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:16,570 was on the outside of the house he were 2836 02:09:20,490 --> 02:09:18,370 right about the boat he had a fiberglass 2837 02:09:21,180 --> 02:09:20,500 boat in which the fiberglass hull was 2838 02:09:26,430 --> 02:09:21,190 magnetic 2839 02:09:28,260 --> 02:09:26,440 we had wooden serving spoons for you 2840 02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:28,270 know salad serving spoons so they were 2841 02:09:32,940 --> 02:09:30,610 magnetic we had plastic counters that 2842 02:09:35,310 --> 02:09:32,950 were magnetic we had the kitchen 2843 02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:35,320 cabinets all the hinges were you nepal's 2844 02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:38,890 we could never find the opposing pole in 2845 02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:41,440 an avocado tree in the backyard which 2846 02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:44,530 sets the Gauss meter on the branch of 2847 02:09:48,660 --> 02:09:46,480 the avocado tree and it would read 10 2848 02:09:52,890 --> 02:09:48,670 milligauss well that's as far as the 2849 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:52,900 scale would get go the soil that was 2850 02:09:58,770 --> 02:09:55,450 surrounded that tree would occasionally 2851 02:10:01,670 --> 02:09:58,780 break out spontaneous combustion we dug 2852 02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:01,680 down we looked for gas lines we did 2853 02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:03,970 Studies on the surrounding soil 2854 02:10:07,590 --> 02:10:06,010 neighbors soil we turned it in the only 2855 02:10:10,290 --> 02:10:07,600 thing we found that that in that 2856 02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:10,300 particular area there was a high content 2857 02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:12,610 of bromine I'll tell you well let's get 2858 02:10:16,740 --> 02:10:14,110 into the rest of this answer in a moment 2859 02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:16,750 we have dr. 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02:14:47,920 you're gonna hear stuff here that you 2958 02:14:53,570 --> 02:14:51,460 probably won't hear anywhere else hear 2959 02:14:56,820 --> 02:14:53,580 that George Noory 2960 02:14:59,250 --> 02:14:56,830 dr. Roger Leir continuing his details of 2961 02:15:01,110 --> 02:14:59,260 his investigation we had - a brief break 2962 02:15:03,150 --> 02:15:01,120 for business Gina and Chrissy are in the 2963 02:15:09,140 --> 02:15:03,160 para cast dr. Lear would you continue 2964 02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:09,150 your answer was replete with various 2965 02:15:15,330 --> 02:15:12,210 magnetic anomalies and as I said 2966 02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:15,340 fluorescence findings of four finger 2967 02:15:24,990 --> 02:15:21,210 handprints he his wife and left town one 2968 02:15:27,300 --> 02:15:25,000 weekend to go visit relatives and during 2969 02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:27,310 that time we talked him into removing 2970 02:15:35,670 --> 02:15:31,090 the piece of wall with man prints on it 2971 02:15:37,590 --> 02:15:35,680 and replacing it doing a repair he made 2972 02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,600 up some story to her that there was some 2973 02:15:42,420 --> 02:15:39,520 kind of leak or something that occurred 2974 02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:42,430 through the window but we still have 2975 02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:43,760 that and 2976 02:15:50,259 --> 02:15:47,150 well we've done a lot of things since we 2977 02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:50,269 started this we're now looking at cases 2978 02:15:56,049 --> 02:15:52,880 where there is fluorescence that turns 2979 02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:56,059 up people's houses or on their bodies 2980 02:16:01,209 --> 02:15:58,400 and we're trying to understand what it 2981 02:16:03,219 --> 02:16:01,219 is that makes this fluorescence there's 2982 02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:03,229 a lot of things and things in nature 2983 02:16:08,709 --> 02:16:06,010 that are natural that will produce 2984 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:08,719 fluorescence such as cat urine will 2985 02:16:13,359 --> 02:16:10,610 fluoresce there's certain microwave 2986 02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:13,369 organisms in the ocean called and 2987 02:16:16,959 --> 02:16:14,690 there's solvents and there's cleaners 2988 02:16:20,680 --> 02:16:16,969 yes all those cleaners these organisms 2989 02:16:23,469 --> 02:16:20,690 called dinoflagellates that will emit 2990 02:16:28,239 --> 02:16:23,479 fluorescence with ultraviolet light but 2991 02:16:30,370 --> 02:16:28,249 the frequencies we use we can alter go 2992 02:16:32,379 --> 02:16:30,380 from one frequency to the next and you 2993 02:16:35,439 --> 02:16:32,389 know something like can't urine won't 2994 02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:35,449 show up under one frequency and so we 2995 02:16:40,209 --> 02:16:37,729 know what frequencies these common 2996 02:16:42,459 --> 02:16:40,219 ordinary things to show up under at 2997 02:16:47,589 --> 02:16:42,469 another case in which a woman came in 2998 02:16:50,889 --> 02:16:47,599 said she was taken aboard a craft and 2999 02:16:54,459 --> 02:16:50,899 the third trimester of pregnancy and the 3000 02:16:57,339 --> 02:16:54,469 child was taken and a year later she was 3001 02:16:59,620 --> 02:16:57,349 abducted again that brought back onto 3002 02:17:02,469 --> 02:16:59,630 the craft and a hand of this very 3003 02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:02,479 strange-looking baby which repulsed her 3004 02:17:09,700 --> 02:17:07,040 but she she when she was handed the baby 3005 02:17:12,009 --> 02:17:09,710 she created the cradle the baby in her 3006 02:17:15,849 --> 02:17:12,019 arm like a human baby and immediately 3007 02:17:19,900 --> 02:17:15,859 she felt this bond occur and it was a 3008 02:17:23,320 --> 02:17:19,910 very loving bond so she had come into 3009 02:17:26,979 --> 02:17:23,330 the office with this experience and we 3010 02:17:28,809 --> 02:17:26,989 did some tests on her again one was 3011 02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:28,819 fluorescence that she had fluorescence 3012 02:17:36,219 --> 02:17:32,960 in the palm of the left hand and where 3013 02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:36,229 she held the baby on the forearm of the 3014 02:17:41,229 --> 02:17:38,559 right hand and so we took several 3015 02:17:43,769 --> 02:17:41,239 solvents and we were able to wash it off 3016 02:17:46,330 --> 02:17:43,779 and we told her that was probably 3017 02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:46,340 contamination that she got maybe from 3018 02:17:50,259 --> 02:17:48,080 the steering wheel of her car or 3019 02:17:52,450 --> 02:17:50,269 someplace else and there she was just 3020 02:17:54,820 --> 02:17:52,460 getting ready to leave the office and I 3021 02:17:56,500 --> 02:17:54,830 don't know you get strange feelings at 3022 02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:56,510 times and I said just a minute before 3023 02:17:59,480 --> 02:17:56,880 you 3024 02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,490 leave this is about an hour so we've 3025 02:18:03,410 --> 02:18:01,679 gone by took her back in a room again 3026 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:03,420 and we used the fluorescent light that 3027 02:18:09,230 --> 02:18:07,050 was all back so the stuff does not wash 3028 02:18:10,969 --> 02:18:09,240 off with ordinary solvents 3029 02:18:12,650 --> 02:18:10,979 it hasn't been analyzed at all have you 3030 02:18:15,139 --> 02:18:12,660 been able to figure out exactly what its 3031 02:18:17,810 --> 02:18:15,149 constituent no well we're working on 3032 02:18:20,900 --> 02:18:17,820 that now as we speak we're trying to 3033 02:18:22,730 --> 02:18:20,910 find out exactly what's in it we know 3034 02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:22,740 that that there's substances that are 3035 02:18:29,780 --> 02:18:26,610 not only fluorescence but and when you 3036 02:18:33,379 --> 02:18:29,790 look at the package of the implants 3037 02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:33,389 themselves one of them contained bubbles 3038 02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:37,200 which appeared to be oil and we analyzed 3039 02:18:44,060 --> 02:18:40,170 the oil will turned out to me oil lauric 3040 02:18:48,139 --> 02:18:44,070 acid and lauric acid is a natural immune 3041 02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:48,149 defense mechanism we can instill it into 3042 02:18:52,219 --> 02:18:49,920 the body and the body doesn't react to 3043 02:18:55,610 --> 02:18:52,229 it so but it's the only one that we've 3044 02:18:58,549 --> 02:18:55,620 found that so maybe they do use lauric 3045 02:19:01,160 --> 02:18:58,559 acid to cope these things with we just 3046 02:19:03,049 --> 02:19:01,170 we don't know don't know enough yet know 3047 02:19:05,089 --> 02:19:03,059 boric acid maybe they're afraid of small 3048 02:19:07,730 --> 02:19:05,099 pelicans that's or some bat not bark 3049 02:19:11,540 --> 02:19:07,740 this is Lori Lau lauric acid I've never 3050 02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:11,550 heard that yeah it's it's acid chemical 3051 02:19:19,730 --> 02:19:16,080 used in laboratories well we have a 3052 02:19:21,919 --> 02:19:19,740 whole bunch of questions from Riggi wah 3053 02:19:24,650 --> 02:19:21,929 who's been a poster at forum dr. Perik 3054 02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:24,660 asked calm and by the way he lobbied for 3055 02:19:29,839 --> 02:19:28,110 a long time please yes absolutely big 3056 02:19:33,709 --> 02:19:29,849 proponents and and he's very interested 3057 02:19:36,320 --> 02:19:33,719 in your involvement in the Turkish UFO 3058 02:19:38,509 --> 02:19:36,330 videos between the two thousand seven 3059 02:19:40,580 --> 02:19:38,519 and nine and they they've been 3060 02:19:42,290 --> 02:19:40,590 circulating around for a while and word 3061 02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:42,300 is that you were there when one of those 3062 02:19:46,910 --> 02:19:45,120 events was filmed do you want to 3063 02:19:49,550 --> 02:19:46,920 describe to us what happened there what 3064 02:19:51,350 --> 02:19:49,560 do you think of that Turkish wave in the 3065 02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:51,360 footage that's been produced by those 3066 02:19:55,550 --> 02:19:53,520 gentlemen on the the coastline there 3067 02:19:57,139 --> 02:19:55,560 what did you see when you were there you 3068 02:19:59,210 --> 02:19:57,149 actually were there when one of the 3069 02:20:03,560 --> 02:19:59,220 events was filmed well I was actually 3070 02:20:07,540 --> 02:20:03,570 there for two years but it was 2007 2008 3071 02:20:09,330 --> 02:20:07,550 2009 I was there at 8 9 but I actually 3072 02:20:12,300 --> 02:20:09,340 was 3073 02:20:14,670 --> 02:20:12,310 privileged enough to look through the 3074 02:20:17,940 --> 02:20:14,680 camera viewfinder and everything that 3075 02:20:19,740 --> 02:20:17,950 you saw original footage but the thing 3076 02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:19,750 is that many people have not seen the 3077 02:20:25,580 --> 02:20:21,520 original footage they've seen what was 3078 02:20:28,490 --> 02:20:25,590 on YouTube so they they have no idea of 3079 02:20:31,740 --> 02:20:28,500 what the original footage looks like 3080 02:20:34,250 --> 02:20:31,750 what we did was we went to a small town 3081 02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:34,260 on the European coast and as you know 3082 02:20:40,050 --> 02:20:37,120 turkey is really on two continents 3083 02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:40,060 that's done Europe and then the Orient 3084 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:44,260 both so this was on the European coast 3085 02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:49,210 looking out over the over the sea and we 3086 02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:52,090 stayed up from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 3087 02:20:58,320 --> 02:20:54,250 o'clock in the morning morning filming 3088 02:21:01,340 --> 02:20:58,330 over the sea the fellow that owned the 3089 02:21:04,639 --> 02:21:01,350 camera equipment - his name is Yeltsin 3090 02:21:09,389 --> 02:21:04,649 had sort of a photographic knack for 3091 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:09,399 feeling the presence of UFO so we had a 3092 02:21:15,389 --> 02:21:12,370 conference there prior to this and there 3093 02:21:23,969 --> 02:21:15,399 was about 3,000 people that were at the 3094 02:21:27,810 --> 02:21:23,979 conference then the year 2008 and 2009 I 3095 02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:27,820 saw so many UFOs that I really had no 3096 02:21:33,090 --> 02:21:30,850 desire to ever see one again I mean it's 3097 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:33,100 like was like watching the traffic on 3098 02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:35,680 the freeway now every single news 3099 02:21:41,580 --> 02:21:39,490 station has their remote truck out at 3100 02:21:43,740 --> 02:21:41,590 the conference centre filming these 3101 02:21:47,460 --> 02:21:43,750 things all day long these were taillight 3102 02:21:49,860 --> 02:21:47,470 sightings so we decided to go out at 3103 02:21:54,420 --> 02:21:49,870 night I think it's called a sea of Mara 3104 02:21:58,580 --> 02:21:54,430 Mar so I'm not correct I have this up on 3105 02:22:02,580 --> 02:21:58,590 my website and we took it down because 3106 02:22:06,750 --> 02:22:02,590 the the footage that we had didn't show 3107 02:22:08,661 --> 02:22:06,760 what was supposed to be there but we're 3108 02:22:13,201 --> 02:22:08,671 putting it back up again and 3109 02:22:15,470 --> 02:22:13,211 it'll be this Sunday night it'll be on 3110 02:22:18,991 --> 02:22:15,480 another website I don't know whether I 3111 02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:19,001 have the right to say that tell where it 3112 02:22:23,881 --> 02:22:20,160 is or not 3113 02:22:27,741 --> 02:22:23,891 feel free yeah well it'll be on coast to 3114 02:22:31,381 --> 02:22:27,751 coast well you know will tolerate that 3115 02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:31,391 within a normal level of toleration or 3116 02:22:35,461 --> 02:22:33,490 tolerance if it's good footage yeah why 3117 02:22:39,781 --> 02:22:35,471 not sure yeah it's a copy of the 3118 02:22:41,551 --> 02:22:39,791 original footage and so as I said I just 3119 02:22:42,421 --> 02:22:41,561 looked through the viewfinder it contra 3120 02:22:45,751 --> 02:22:42,431 saw the whole thing 3121 02:22:48,680 --> 02:22:45,761 what let me describe the situation the 3122 02:22:51,541 --> 02:22:48,690 sea was calm that we surveyed it with 3123 02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:51,551 optical equipment binoculars telescopes 3124 02:22:58,531 --> 02:22:55,120 and so on to see how far out across the 3125 02:23:00,810 --> 02:22:58,541 sea we could see anything the water was 3126 02:23:03,930 --> 02:23:00,820 devoid of ships there were no oil rigs 3127 02:23:05,581 --> 02:23:03,940 there were no background not lights 3128 02:23:10,131 --> 02:23:05,591 there was nothing to reflect in the 3129 02:23:14,161 --> 02:23:10,141 water we also filmed at the time of the 3130 02:23:15,810 --> 02:23:14,171 sighting there was a dog that would 3131 02:23:18,451 --> 02:23:15,820 happened to be out in the beach that was 3132 02:23:20,581 --> 02:23:18,461 reacting quite violently looking out 3133 02:23:22,860 --> 02:23:20,591 over the water so undoubtedly the dog 3134 02:23:26,430 --> 02:23:22,870 could either see this thing or feel it 3135 02:23:30,091 --> 02:23:26,440 or whatever but the there was a bright 3136 02:23:32,430 --> 02:23:30,101 full moon and that's the first thing 3137 02:23:34,411 --> 02:23:32,440 that we were able to see him sky and 3138 02:23:37,291 --> 02:23:34,421 underneath the moon was a little bright 3139 02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:37,301 dot could have been a star or planet or 3140 02:23:45,511 --> 02:23:42,370 anything else but we decided to love the 3141 02:23:48,331 --> 02:23:45,521 camera I had a 300 millimeter lens and 3142 02:23:51,871 --> 02:23:48,341 an electronic doubler that means that we 3143 02:23:54,270 --> 02:23:51,881 could go with the mechanical focusing 3144 02:23:57,631 --> 02:23:54,280 device of the lens and the electronics 3145 02:23:59,940 --> 02:23:57,641 to 600 millimeter magnification the 3146 02:24:04,890 --> 02:23:59,950 camera was not sticks but there was a 3147 02:24:06,841 --> 02:24:04,900 breeze blowing and so it it looks like 3148 02:24:09,930 --> 02:24:06,851 it's a little bit handheld but it's not 3149 02:24:12,211 --> 02:24:09,940 there was on a tripod we'll get into the 3150 02:24:14,730 --> 02:24:12,221 second part of this description as he's 3151 02:24:16,951 --> 02:24:14,740 describing the setup for these photos we 3152 02:24:19,860 --> 02:24:16,961 have dr. 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you listening 3264 02:28:56,059 --> 02:28:48,600 to the podcast the gold standard of 3265 02:28:58,609 --> 02:28:56,069 paranormal radio one more segment left 3266 02:29:01,099 --> 02:28:58,619 with dr. Roger Leir with gene and Chris 3267 02:29:04,429 --> 02:29:01,109 and the parent cast and dr. Lear was 3268 02:29:06,069 --> 02:29:04,439 setting up a response to a question with 3269 02:29:09,619 --> 02:29:06,079 some more information would you go on 3270 02:29:12,889 --> 02:29:09,629 okay so we were talking about the camera 3271 02:29:15,949 --> 02:29:12,899 and lenses and but we first thing we 3272 02:29:18,170 --> 02:29:15,959 focused on was the mood and then we 3273 02:29:20,269 --> 02:29:18,180 dropped the camera down slightly to look 3274 02:29:23,599 --> 02:29:20,279 at this what we thought was a planet or 3275 02:29:27,800 --> 02:29:23,609 star and it seemed at that point to be 3276 02:29:29,500 --> 02:29:27,810 much brighter than anything that we had 3277 02:29:32,210 --> 02:29:29,510 seen previously 3278 02:29:34,369 --> 02:29:32,220 certainly brighter and intensity than 3279 02:29:39,019 --> 02:29:34,379 the moonlight was so that's when we 3280 02:29:41,719 --> 02:29:39,029 started the push or zoom on the object 3281 02:29:45,649 --> 02:29:41,729 and we got about 300 millimeters and we 3282 02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:45,659 could see that it was a craft which we 3283 02:29:51,290 --> 02:29:47,850 can only see the front end of and then 3284 02:29:54,290 --> 02:29:51,300 when we pushed fully on the craft full 3285 02:29:56,359 --> 02:29:54,300 zoom we can see that the side we were 3286 02:30:00,800 --> 02:29:56,369 looking at look like a side of a 3287 02:30:02,719 --> 02:30:00,810 boomerang and then we just kept you know 3288 02:30:07,399 --> 02:30:02,729 kept the camera focused on that 3289 02:30:11,000 --> 02:30:07,409 particular craft and slowly it began to 3290 02:30:14,210 --> 02:30:11,010 turn and as it turned we could see that 3291 02:30:17,449 --> 02:30:14,220 the craft itself was being lighted by 3292 02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:17,459 the full moon but that there was light 3293 02:30:22,519 --> 02:30:20,010 coming from three portions of the craft 3294 02:30:27,920 --> 02:30:22,529 in the front one in the middle on one on 3295 02:30:29,359 --> 02:30:27,930 each side and we looked very closely and 3296 02:30:36,319 --> 02:30:29,369 we could see that there was movement 3297 02:30:41,540 --> 02:30:36,329 there and again we used the full zoom of 3298 02:30:44,750 --> 02:30:41,550 the camera at that point and we saw what 3299 02:30:46,939 --> 02:30:44,760 appeared to be grey aliens standing 3300 02:30:51,500 --> 02:30:46,949 there whatever they were doing operated 3301 02:30:53,770 --> 02:30:51,510 controls and so on so we just kept 3302 02:30:58,511 --> 02:30:53,780 filming it until 3303 02:31:00,940 --> 02:30:58,521 finally it just receded and disappeared 3304 02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:00,950 oh yeah you know we didn't see it fly 3305 02:31:07,150 --> 02:31:04,130 away or you know we didn't see it go up 3306 02:31:09,610 --> 02:31:07,160 or down it just faded out disappeared 3307 02:31:16,570 --> 02:31:09,620 how many Gries above the horizon was it 3308 02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:16,580 I say maybe 70 degrees okay so up in the 3309 02:31:22,030 --> 02:31:18,410 air some of the debunkers have said that 3310 02:31:24,881 --> 02:31:22,040 it's nothing more than a distant ocean 3311 02:31:27,251 --> 02:31:24,891 liner or passenger ship approaching I 3312 02:31:30,341 --> 02:31:27,261 know from you know over the horizon so 3313 02:31:33,810 --> 02:31:30,351 that that you can't you can't yeah we we 3314 02:31:36,761 --> 02:31:33,820 set the VAE we set the video into a 3315 02:31:39,700 --> 02:31:36,771 University in Istanbul was connected 3316 02:31:41,950 --> 02:31:39,710 with the government then they went over 3317 02:31:44,140 --> 02:31:41,960 what their analyzed it was it was major 3318 02:31:46,540 --> 02:31:44,150 news they don't hide anything in Turkey 3319 02:31:49,091 --> 02:31:46,550 like it's not elsewhere such as the 3320 02:31:51,461 --> 02:31:49,101 United States and they verify that this 3321 02:31:54,820 --> 02:31:51,471 was an actual craft which they deemed a 3322 02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:54,830 non terrestrial craft then once we got 3323 02:31:59,740 --> 02:31:57,200 their report then hocked on like without 3324 02:32:03,040 --> 02:31:59,750 there's a head of a serious organization 3325 02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:03,050 for Turkey did a number of television 3326 02:32:09,251 --> 02:32:06,170 news programs and amongst these programs 3327 02:32:11,530 --> 02:32:09,261 were democracy and skeptics and all 3328 02:32:15,310 --> 02:32:11,540 sorts of people and we've been brought 3329 02:32:17,230 --> 02:32:15,320 out the analysis that was done and there 3330 02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:17,240 was nothing much they could say about it 3331 02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:20,030 then about two months after that the 3332 02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:22,690 footage was sent to analysts in Chile 3333 02:32:29,350 --> 02:32:26,530 who volunteered to do it with an 3334 02:32:31,390 --> 02:32:29,360 organization he was with a very high 3335 02:32:34,150 --> 02:32:31,400 credentialed organization and what he 3336 02:32:39,570 --> 02:32:34,160 did was he used gene what's called a 3337 02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:39,580 frame splitter the the frames go by 3338 02:32:46,301 --> 02:32:42,530 television camera 30 frames per second 3339 02:32:49,301 --> 02:32:46,311 but each frame has split into two 3340 02:32:52,810 --> 02:32:49,311 sections called fields so if you have a 3341 02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:52,820 30 frames you have 60 fields so if you 3342 02:32:58,421 --> 02:32:56,450 have a device that will isolate fields 3343 02:32:59,860 --> 02:32:58,431 you can look instead of absurdity 3344 02:33:02,830 --> 02:32:59,870 pictures you're gonna look at 60 3345 02:33:03,820 --> 02:33:02,840 pictures in there you get more detail so 3346 02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:03,830 he actually did 3347 02:33:10,090 --> 02:33:07,370 analysis of not only the craft but the 3348 02:33:15,610 --> 02:33:10,100 beings and then he did the measurements 3349 02:33:18,210 --> 02:33:15,620 of how how high this was above the water 3350 02:33:21,761 --> 02:33:18,220 the angle from the beach 3351 02:33:25,330 --> 02:33:21,771 triangulation effects what the beings 3352 02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:25,340 were doing during the time that we were 3353 02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:27,050 filling away and then there was more 3354 02:33:31,690 --> 02:33:30,170 than graze that were there he described 3355 02:33:34,930 --> 02:33:31,700 them in great detail well that 3356 02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:34,940 information also will be up on my 3357 02:33:44,410 --> 02:33:39,530 website soon so incidentally my website 3358 02:33:48,130 --> 02:33:44,420 is alien Calpol dot-com alien scalpel 3359 02:33:49,511 --> 02:33:48,140 dot-com well I think a lot of our 3360 02:33:51,130 --> 02:33:49,521 listeners are going to be intrigued 3361 02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:51,140 enough to go take a look at that I've 3362 02:33:58,060 --> 02:33:54,110 seen the highly compressed versions on 3363 02:34:01,511 --> 02:33:58,070 YouTube which I understand your being in 3364 02:34:03,970 --> 02:34:01,521 video that a lot of detail is is lost 3365 02:34:07,210 --> 02:34:03,980 I'd be really interested to see high res 3366 02:34:08,350 --> 02:34:07,220 a high res version of some of the 3367 02:34:11,011 --> 02:34:08,360 footage it's come from there because 3368 02:34:14,380 --> 02:34:11,021 quite frankly you know hearing from you 3369 02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:14,390 as being on site gives in my mind gives 3370 02:34:19,630 --> 02:34:16,640 this whole scenario they're in the sea 3371 02:34:22,090 --> 02:34:19,640 of marmara a lot more credibility again 3372 02:34:24,370 --> 02:34:22,100 it's very difficult to determine from a 3373 02:34:26,230 --> 02:34:24,380 the other side of the planet the 3374 02:34:28,330 --> 02:34:26,240 veracity of the people that are involved 3375 02:34:30,940 --> 02:34:28,340 but to have someone of your stature 3376 02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:30,950 going over there dr. Leir and Encinas 3377 02:34:37,870 --> 02:34:33,170 with your own eyes that that goes a long 3378 02:34:40,060 --> 02:34:37,880 way from for me yeah strange sake set of 3379 02:34:43,051 --> 02:34:40,070 sick synchronicities that you know i 3380 02:34:45,790 --> 02:34:43,061 don't mind staying up late but you know 3381 02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:45,800 unless i'm engaged in some very 3382 02:34:50,860 --> 02:34:48,350 important activity i usually go to bed 3383 02:34:53,500 --> 02:34:50,870 around 11:30 12:00 o'clock i don't stay 3384 02:34:56,620 --> 02:34:53,510 up from 12 till 4 o'clock in the morning 3385 02:34:59,530 --> 02:34:56,630 and for me even to consents to do that i 3386 02:35:00,040 --> 02:34:59,540 don't know i don't know why i did it the 3387 02:35:02,290 --> 02:35:00,050 truth 3388 02:35:05,920 --> 02:35:02,300 but there was a number of us there a 3389 02:35:09,280 --> 02:35:05,930 high memo song was there also and he had 3390 02:35:13,690 --> 02:35:09,290 his camera crew but the main camera had 3391 02:35:16,390 --> 02:35:13,700 the the push ability to well the six 3392 02:35:17,479 --> 02:35:16,400 millimeter large lens yeah that's a 3393 02:35:19,550 --> 02:35:17,489 large land so 3394 02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:19,560 as I said when you see a little movement 3395 02:35:24,439 --> 02:35:22,319 of the camera it's only because there 3396 02:35:26,779 --> 02:35:24,449 was a wind blowing and it was even hard 3397 02:35:31,399 --> 02:35:26,789 to keep the camera steady on set of 3398 02:35:35,449 --> 02:35:31,409 sticks but to see this thing I mean to 3399 02:35:38,439 --> 02:35:35,459 me was pretty convincing representation 3400 02:35:41,989 --> 02:35:38,449 of you know these were not Rorschach's 3401 02:35:43,880 --> 02:35:41,999 these were you know black eyed beings as 3402 02:35:44,960 --> 02:35:43,890 you can see it's clearer as you would if 3403 02:35:47,929 --> 02:35:44,970 you were looking at your neighbors 3404 02:35:52,010 --> 02:35:47,939 window well and good don't ask me about 3405 02:35:55,609 --> 02:35:52,020 looking into my neighbor's window I know 3406 02:35:57,139 --> 02:35:55,619 you live in the country well actually we 3407 02:35:59,149 --> 02:35:57,149 don't live in the country we do have 3408 02:36:00,260 --> 02:35:59,159 neighbors and they're nice people so I 3409 02:36:03,439 --> 02:36:00,270 wouldn't want to look in their windows 3410 02:36:05,539 --> 02:36:03,449 yes their dogs are loud yeah well you 3411 02:36:09,109 --> 02:36:05,549 actually have neighbors with dogs on 3412 02:36:12,619 --> 02:36:09,119 both sides of us one has six dogs one 3413 02:36:15,739 --> 02:36:12,629 has five dogs but six more puppies oh my 3414 02:36:18,649 --> 02:36:15,749 gosh and these are all st. Bernards well 3415 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:18,659 I think they're pit bulls oh okay well 3416 02:36:22,460 --> 02:36:20,970 then you're safe well they must like you 3417 02:36:24,170 --> 02:36:22,470 dr. Leir because they haven't barked 3418 02:36:26,300 --> 02:36:24,180 once this whole segment which I think 3419 02:36:28,279 --> 02:36:26,310 may be a record correct me if I'm wrong 3420 02:36:31,369 --> 02:36:28,289 Jean well yeah you know what it is is 3421 02:36:34,639 --> 02:36:31,379 the dogs are learning to cope with our 3422 02:36:37,489 --> 02:36:34,649 dog we have one dog our dog is teddy 3423 02:36:40,489 --> 02:36:37,499 bear and kind of a little sweetheart of 3424 02:36:42,859 --> 02:36:40,499 a dog a B Shawn and because he has such 3425 02:36:46,399 --> 02:36:42,869 a pleasant cheery personality 3426 02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:46,409 they're afraid well I know I know that 3427 02:36:51,559 --> 02:36:48,930 this might be not too interesting to oil 3428 02:36:57,469 --> 02:36:51,569 listeners but I also I have four dogs 3429 02:37:01,729 --> 02:36:57,479 we have two small doxies we have an 3430 02:37:05,630 --> 02:37:01,739 intermediate sized mixed breed and a 3431 02:37:08,689 --> 02:37:05,640 full-blood female German Shepherd whose 3432 02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:08,699 life is in totally it not entangled in 3433 02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:12,770 UFOs it's in what's called a ball so 3434 02:37:16,999 --> 02:37:14,970 anything in her life that doesn't have 3435 02:37:18,860 --> 02:37:17,009 anything to do with the ball is 3436 02:37:20,690 --> 02:37:18,870 superfluous 3437 02:37:22,610 --> 02:37:20,700 well our dog likes his little 3438 02:37:24,501 --> 02:37:22,620 tennis-ball things that are made for 3439 02:37:26,661 --> 02:37:24,511 dogs and when you bite on them they 3440 02:37:29,060 --> 02:37:26,671 start squeaking you know this is the 3441 02:37:32,360 --> 02:37:29,070 para cast and now unfortunately this 3442 02:37:36,320 --> 02:37:32,370 week the show has gone to the dogs 3443 02:37:37,761 --> 02:37:36,330 such a bad joke dr. Roger Leir please 3444 02:37:39,650 --> 02:37:37,771 tell our listeners where they can find 3445 02:37:44,661 --> 02:37:39,660 more of the things that you do well 3446 02:37:51,281 --> 02:37:44,671 again my website is alien Alim scalpel 3447 02:37:54,291 --> 02:37:51,291 SC a Paulie l.com alien scalpel comm 3448 02:38:00,261 --> 02:37:54,301 they want to contact me they can contact 3449 02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:00,271 me on leer le IR private priv 80 like a 3450 02:38:06,230 --> 02:38:04,410 private in the Army at aol.com and with 3451 02:38:07,461 --> 02:38:06,240 AOL you never know if it's private I 3452 02:38:10,100 --> 02:38:07,471 don't want to say that Chris O'Brien 3453 02:38:12,110 --> 02:38:10,110 where do we find more of your stuff well 3454 02:38:14,631 --> 02:38:12,120 we live on a strange planet as we found 3455 02:38:17,121 --> 02:38:14,641 out today from dr. Leir and it's our 3456 02:38:19,671 --> 02:38:17,131 strange planet calm let me tell you 3457 02:38:22,011 --> 02:38:19,681 listeners we have questions in our 3458 02:38:23,810 --> 02:38:22,021 forums knock earlier knows about it we 3459 02:38:25,220 --> 02:38:23,820 didn't have a chance to cover today and 3460 02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:25,230 we'll have him back in the near future 3461 02:38:30,291 --> 02:38:28,110 to get to those you can find us on 3462 02:38:33,860 --> 02:38:30,301 Twitter where we are known as the para 3463 02:38:35,390 --> 02:38:33,870 cast we are the power cast on Twitter we 3464 02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:35,400 also have a power cast section on 3465 02:38:39,171 --> 02:38:37,200 Facebook two of them and one day I'll 3466 02:38:41,871 --> 02:38:39,181 figure out how to make them into just 3467 02:38:44,211 --> 02:38:41,881 one dr. Roger Leir thanks for joining us 3468 02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:44,221 this week on the power cast Thank You 3469 02:38:48,690 --> 02:38:46,530 Gina Chris I hope to be with you again 3470 02:38:55,200 --> 02:38:48,700 soon 3471 02:38:58,719 --> 02:38:55,210 [Music] 3472 02:39:01,630 --> 02:38:58,729 the para cast featuring gene Steinberg 3473 02:39:04,620 --> 02:39:01,640 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3474 02:39:08,559 --> 02:39:04,630 presentation of making the impossible